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aciduss
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Posted : Jun 25, 2008 09:34:33
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Hi... maybe this is stupid i dunno, but lately i've known many producers who use Q series to eq. I have been comparing this two EQ modules and i find the REQ better, cause i can make HIGH and LOW CUTS, which i can't in Q series, there i just can do shelf eq.
Well... i don't really know how to ask this, i know maybe they are intented for different tasks or maybe it has to do with the linear phase thing, which i don't get quite well.
What should i do? use one to boost and another to get the LP / HP or should i stick only on one of the EQs. Thanks... hope you get my doubt. |
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Tomos
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Posted : Jun 25, 2008 09:54
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Yes, you can make high and low pass cuts on the Qseries! Just keep clicking the node shape to cycle through all the shapes.
The difference between the REQ and Q10 is staggeringly apparent on good monitors.
The Q10 is a purely digital, transparent or clean EQ.
Renaissance EQ was designed to add the warmth of analogue distortion.
So really, it depends what you're going for and if you want to colour the sound in a certain way.
Clean is better, right? 
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Elad
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Posted : Jun 25, 2008 14:39
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Veq rules
btw u can make with Q10 way more harsh cut (120DB!) then Req (36DB)
just make 12DB x 10 cuts
tho usualy i like 6db or 12db filters more , and plugins i like FL eq2 / sonox / waves Veq4 |
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bandarlog
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Posted : Jun 25, 2008 17:27
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Seamoon
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Posted : Jun 25, 2008 18:52
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Btw a interessting thing i've noticed about the renaissance eq:
You achiev the most harsh low/high cut with a Q-size of exactly 1 and not 1.41 (which is the maximum).
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aciduss
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Posted : Jun 25, 2008 20:57
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Thx for all your comments.
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| Yes, you can make high and low pass cuts on the Qseries! Just keep clicking the node shape to cycle through all the shapes. |
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Oh i got potfused, what i meant was that Q series won't let me set depth of the cut, i can't highpass a bassline with that can i? What i've seend people do is use many nodes to achieve the cut but i see there are space between them, could malignous low frequencies escape that trick?
cheers |
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : Jun 25, 2008 22:02
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Tomos
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Posted : Jun 26, 2008 01:53
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Colin OOOD wrote:
I think Q=1.41 is actually steeper, but Q=1 is the only setting that doesn't let some of the unwanted frequencies through.
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How did you find that out?
Am I not to trust my EQ's without fitst checking they're doing their job? |
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piko_bianko
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Posted : Jun 26, 2008 02:26
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On 2008-06-25 22:02, Colin OOOD wrote:
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On 2008-06-25 18:52, Seamoon wrote:
Btw a interessting thing i've noticed about the renaissance eq:
You achiev the most harsh low/high cut with a Q-size of exactly 1 and not 1.41 (which is the maximum).
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I think Q=1.41 is actually steeper, but Q=1 is the only setting that doesn't let some of the unwanted frequencies through.
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+1
in all REQ's, values above 1 give super unwanted results in the sub-bass area.. don't know why.
as for myself, the highest Q i use is 0.90
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0hz
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Posted : Jun 26, 2008 02:27
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i wouldent use waves Q or REQ for boosting frequencies, there are not the most successful waves eqs for that purpose.
the waves V series , API and SSL do a better and more natural job when boosting frequencies.
not only by the way they sound but also algorithmically.
the Q and the REQ are not bad for cutting, but they just dont sound good to me compared to sonnox eq or the voxengo gliss.
also sonalksis eq is really good for boosting and cutting.
anyway you should do your own tests. |
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Speakafreaka
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Posted : Jun 26, 2008 04:26
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I don't use REQ or Q for cutting bass... REQ is great for 'shining' uppers IMO... and I've never really got on that well with Q. There are other plugins I much prefer for bass duties, such as Gliss EQ (a spectral analyzer is a very useful thing when it comes to EQing bass instruments. A very useful thing), *some* of the URS brigade (I much prefer their SSL clone to the waves variant - totally subjective and situational, and as for the console strip...!!! THAT has some seriously fukkin good EQ... well capable of some very subtle and beautiful effects - note how the 1951 eq isn't linear... add 15db and subtract 15db at one freq... it definitely is not 0db... and you cannot get the same result from just using one EQ to the difference... Properly nice. Virtually everything sounds better through this. Even mundane parts just sound a shit lot better), and from the waves stable the Lowband, although I would prefer it if I could get slightly more precise with the Hz, and it didn't click on transition. That V slope filter is seriously useful in some situations though!
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makus
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Posted : Jun 26, 2008 12:08
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im totally with speaka freaka here, except that i used both Waves REq and Q-series equalizers for quite a long time. now its time for Sonnox and Spectrasonics (its equalizer has spectrum analyzer also which is quite useful)
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : Jun 26, 2008 22:20
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On 2008-06-26 01:53, Tomos wrote:
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Colin OOOD wrote:
I think Q=1.41 is actually steeper, but Q=1 is the only setting that doesn't let some of the unwanted frequencies through.
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How did you find that out?
Am I not to trust my EQ's without fitst checking they're doing their job?
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Spectrum analyser (Spectralab). You can trust them if they sound good to you; I just wanted to know exactly what was actually going on so I had a look.
The Waves LinEQ Lowband also lets stuff through, even on V-Slope. There is no HPF setting on the LinEQ plugins that will completely eliminate low frequencies.
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Speakafreaka
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Posted : Jun 26, 2008 22:44
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Speakafreaka
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Posted : Jun 26, 2008 23:25
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interesting... spectralab says at -80db there is activity.
RX Studio puts it on the noise floor...
I have no idea which is more accurate.
I know spectralab has a top notch rep, but then so does RX Studio, and furthermore, its results seem to make more sense. I don't think it would just randomly place a value magically on the noise floor. .
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