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Fometrius
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Posted : Jun 10, 2012 07:01:17
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Hey guys , i been messing around a little with Waves Maxxbass, and i like the pressure, especially in the low freq area. However, i always end up with a higher volume in one ear when using maxx bass.
In other words when using maxx bass the bass is louder in one ear.
I apply it on the group channel where i got the kick and bass , i read somewhere that its best to have there and when having it there i hear a big difference compared to when only applying it at the bass channel.
Its very annoying, i want to be able to use it so the effect and bass boosting is at the same level in both ears, like now its higher in one ear. I have tried different settings and i end up in having the sound louder in one direction ( ear ).
Anyone have had the similiar problem or have any knowledge about this ? It feels like getting maxxbass to work properly would be a really nice injection.
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vipal
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Fometrius
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Posted : Jun 10, 2012 07:11
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hmm, how do you mean ? Should i do it through Maxbass or at the seperate bass and kick channel ? Why would it have a impact ?
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soospicey
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Posted : Jun 10, 2012 17:30
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davinski
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Posted : Jun 10, 2012 19:49
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i'm 100% shure it's a problem with mono and stereo.
Best way is to keep kick and lower sound of bass in mono,so the left and right channel is outputting equal db of sound,then use maxbass in mono.
If you've got a bass in stereo,the left and right channels differ in db so even if you would use maxbass stereo, the difference in db will be the same..
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makus
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Posted : Jun 11, 2012 01:35
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Are you sure your version of MaxxBass looks 100% the same as you posted on the picture?
If you are using Mono, it is gonna have only one output meter
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Upavas
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Posted : Jun 11, 2012 03:48
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I think Max bass is really messy. Try to make the fatness as good as you can within your plugin. then add normal compression with a slow attack. I sometimes use the Bass enhancer 2 setting on sc comp from wav and tweak it a little as needed... result, mo phat and a lot less to fuck around with than with maxbass...
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Posted : Jun 11, 2012 15:24
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Hello there, I'm using it in the master and I put the stereo one...
What about that?
Always thought is a mastering tool.....
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Fometrius
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Posted : Jun 13, 2012 11:27
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Thanks for the input, had no clue it could have something to do with mono,anyway, it seemed i by accident have solved it.
I was sitting yesterday trying to get the midi channel (the bass channel) into mono, but could not find how. My kick was in mono though.Now i understand that the mono activation should be though the plug.
However, i did put a distortion plugin on the group channel for the kick and bass ( Camelphat ) and it did flatten the bass so it was the same amount on each ear whilst having the maxxbass on.
Maybe, camelphat gets the kick to muddy ? By some reason it just adjust the levels . But i dont want the kick to loose presence or sharpness.Sounds ok now though.
Now i understand that i should try to get the maxx bass in mono mode and not the bass channel itself, hehe. Is there different versions of maxx bass or should it be a mono and stereo mode in the plug ? If there is one i have not find it though, have tried to tweak the plug in all directions and taking away all eq and plugs from bass channel.
Seems to work now though unless camelphat is a very bad idea for the kick and bass group channel.What i think camelphat has done in some way is that it has limited the sound in both R and L and boosted the pressure, so the sound that was higher got limited and the other that was lower got boosted.It sounds like that ,both levels are now identical.
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Fometrius
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Posted : Jun 13, 2012 11:30
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On 2012-06-11 15:24, dexer_stb wrote:
Hello there, I'm using it in the master and I put the stereo one...
What about that?
Always thought is a mastering tool.....
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okey cool, i think i have read somewhere that you can do it like that, may i ask what levels you use approxiametly ( spelling ? ) if you compare to the image above.
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Kasmakaja
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Posted : Jun 13, 2012 13:49
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On 2012-06-13 11:27, Fometrius wrote:
Thanks for the input, had no clue it could have something to do with mono,anyway, it seemed i by accident have solved it.
I was sitting yesterday trying to get the midi channel (the bass channel) into mono, but could not find how. My kick was in mono though.Now i understand that the mono activation should be though the plug.
However, i did put a distortion plugin on the group channel for the kick and bass ( Camelphat ) and it did flatten the bass so it was the same amount on each ear whilst having the maxxbass on.
Maybe, camelphat gets the kick to muddy ? By some reason it just adjust the levels . But i dont want the kick to loose presence or sharpness.Sounds ok now though.
Now i understand that i should try to get the maxx bass in mono mode and not the bass channel itself, hehe. Is there different versions of maxx bass or should it be a mono and stereo mode in the plug ? If there is one i have not find it though, have tried to tweak the plug in all directions and taking away all eq and plugs from bass channel.
Seems to work now though unless camelphat is a very bad idea for the kick and bass group channel.What i think camelphat has done in some way is that it has limited the sound in both R and L and boosted the pressure, so the sound that was higher got limited and the other that was lower got boosted.It sounds like that ,both levels are now identical.
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No u got it worng,
the thing is that u are using the maxbass mono on a stereo vst channel (bass) .
u have to choose the stereo version of maxxbass, u could also put a mono maker plugin before the maxbass but i suggest u to take the stereo version (its for all the waves plugins, mono only works on mono otherwise it messes it up)
and if u are afraid of having a stero bass, just put the monomaker afterwards or pan both sides of the channel to the middle so u will have mono anyway.
i wouldnt put maxbass on the master...there shouldnt be any plugin anyway...i wouldnt also put camelphat on the kick and bass group...if u really think it sounds better put it on each channel on its own to get a better control. us a analyzer like paz frequencies to be sure if something is mono or just sounds like..hope that helps |
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daark
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Posted : Jun 13, 2012 14:30
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On 2012-06-13 13:49, Kasmakaja wrote:
i wouldnt put maxbass on the master...there shouldnt be any plugin anyway...i wouldnt also put camelphat on the kick and bass group...if u really think it sounds better put it on each channel on its own to get a better control. us a analyzer like paz frequencies to be sure if something is mono or just sounds like..hope that helps
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now take a sine or a single frequency and put it through the plugin to see what harmonics it brings up and what it is all about only then use your ears 
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Fometrius
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Posted : Jun 13, 2012 14:45
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hmm, i searched for the mono version on the net but did not find any. So there is two different versions of Maxx bass, one that is mono and one for stereo, or do you mean that you can choose mono or stereo from the same plugin ?
Because i tried all settings i can think of at my maxx bass version.
The mono maker sounds interesting, will see if i can get my hands on one.
I have the panning in the middle now, but its louder in one ear with maxxbass .When i take away maxx bass the volume is equal. And when i use camelphat on the group channel then there is the same volume even when using maxx bass. So far camel phat is the only thing that made the volume the same in both directions.
I never use camelphat on a group channel otherwise but maybe it would not be that bad if it solves the maxxbass problem, would it really damage that sound so much, or more then if having it seperately at the bass and kick channel ?
And would it really "damage", change ( compress ) the sound more then a standard compressor ?
And why does camelphat make the volume the same in both ears when applying it on the group channel and not individually at the kick and bass channel ?
As i look at it now, if i use camelphat then it works, even if its not the best solution, and if its brings some muddiness etc maybe i can compensate ( fix ) it through some tweaking with EQ etc.
But would prefer using maxxbass without camelphat, but maybe camelphat does not make such big difference when just using it gently, i only use it now for making the volume equal in both ears.And i dont think it colours so much.
Or its just me being lazy wanting to not have to get a mono version of maxxbass which i at the moment cant find.
However if camelphat does not change the sound more then a ordinary compressor there should be no problem, i am a bit curious though why camelphat has made the volume equal, there must be some kind of limiting and not just boosting, i think.
But as said i would like to make it work with maxx bass without camelphat.But i need to now if there is two versions of maxx bass ( one mono and one stereo ) or if there is two options in one plug, and if there is two options how do i activate the mono mode.
If there is two products, one especially for mono, what is its name ?
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