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Waves APA 32 vs UAD1 Ultra PAK

Adrenal Mode
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Posted : Sep 13, 2005 18:46
Hi all,

My question is witch DSP davice is more professional ? (plugin Pack's,DSP system..)


Thank's

Boobytrip
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Posted : Sep 14, 2005 22:18
I think both can be used professionally, choosing for Waves or UAD-1 plugins depends on whether you're after vintage emulation or precision.
UnderTow


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Posted : Sep 14, 2005 22:40

To my knowledge, the Waves APA 32 (1500 Euro) is designed and priced to be used with a ProTools system as an alternative to adding a Digidesign Accel card. (7000 Euro)

If you are using a native system (Cubase, Sonar, Samplitude etc), you would do best to invest the price of an APA into a new motherboard + cpu + ram.

For 1400 Euro you can get a Tyan K8WE motherboard + 2 AMD Opteron 248 + 2GB PC3200 DDR ram. This would not only dramaticaly increase the number of Waves plugins you can run (about 4 times more powerfull than an APA 32), it would dramaticaly increase the number of ANY plugins you can run. This also gives you an upgrade path: You can later change the Opteron CPUs to dual core CPUs. (Nearly doubling the speed again).

Another issue with the APA solution is that you have to take into account the network latency. This is not the case with native processing.

So forget the APA. You choices are: More native processing. Advantage: Cheap and powerfull. Or get an UAD-1 card. Advantage: Great plugins not available otherwise.

Other alternative: TC PowerCore.

UnderTow
Adrenal Mode
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Posted : Sep 14, 2005 23:59
thanks body trip you have answered on my first part of the question

UnderTow-I know that I can buy alot of things in this $$$ but this is not my question

so the secend part of my question is
*witch DSP systhem is more stronger and steable

*question for the UAD & TC useres: how mach VST you can run on this card at the same time

Thanks

UnderTow


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Posted : Sep 16, 2005 23:19

Adrenal Mode, I have answered the question about processing power: You will get more power from native processing. As for stability, the only time I have had problems with Waves plugins stability it was on a TDM system. Waves is very stable in native mode.

So, again, choose a DSP card if you want the plugins that run on it. Don't choose it for the processing power.

UnderTow
Boobytrip
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Posted : Sep 17, 2005 17:07
@ Undertow: yep, you're absolutely right. I bought the Powercore for the Reverbs, and the UAD-1 for the vintage Compressors, channel-strips and EQ's. Having them both in my system does save a lot of CPU cycles though, but i have a relatively old computer, so maybe that's the reason it saves such a large percentage.

@ Adrenal Mode: it depends on the type of VST's you run on the DSP cards how many you can run at the same time. Reverbs cost a lot of processing-power, a simple EQ costs less. Having said that, you can run about 4 Mega-reverbs and a Virus|Powercore at the same time on one Powercore card.
Adrenal Mode
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Posted : Sep 17, 2005 23:56
Thanks you both for the info
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