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Wanted Aliasing

Suloo
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Posted : Oct 22, 2007 17:57
Hello,

i just wanna know if its possible to create an aliasing sound with common synths..does anyone got an idea about that?

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PoM
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Posted : Oct 22, 2007 18:01
what do you mean with aliasing sound?
Glitch_CapeTown
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Posted : Oct 22, 2007 18:01
Cubase Bitcrusher....
On some synth lines is very nice

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Suloo
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Posted : Oct 22, 2007 18:28
Yer by now i cannot explain how aliasing sounds.. sounds like it starts up another sound while the first one is playing...then the second one raises and melt together with the first one and so on.would be cool if there is a chance to get something out like this with a synth...its like the sound changes by its self ...i`ve heard an example on wavelab with an aliasing sine sweep..and its sounds pretty cool..
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Elad
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Posted : Oct 22, 2007 19:14
u can try hmm camel5000 i think it called
some kinda sampler that sweep between 4 difrent sounds so all u need is to automate x-y parameters between them... not sure tho but as far i remember...

also in evry synth usualy with 2 osc. or more u can create this sort of example.

it can also be 2 sounds and volume automation
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Posted : Oct 22, 2007 19:19
Quote:

On 2007-10-22 17:57, Mtz Mtzz wrote:
Hello,

i just wanna know if its possible to create an aliasing sound with common synths..does anyone got an idea about that?

thx




There are some FX plugins that have down samplers (without anti-aliasing filters). I can't think of any VSTs right now.

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faxinadu
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Posted : Oct 22, 2007 19:23
ephonic invader aliases like crazy....

donno if this is what you mean though           
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Suloo
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Posted : Oct 22, 2007 19:31
Ok...by the way...i need a solution on a mac based system...will try the camel5000..but as i read the description..the evolving part of that synth is about morphing...and as far as i know about morphing...its just blending over one osc with another..yer maybe if i get used to it,it will work this way.have to ty..

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faxinadu
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Posted : Oct 22, 2007 19:36
oh then its not aliasing.... its called vector synthesis when u have 4 oscs on an x/y.

aliasing happens when the synth isn't coded perfect, or doesn't have enough samplerate to deal with high notes, thus some frequency content that should not be present in the signal creeps in there, i think you got some term mixed up and don't mean aliasing... maybe you mean fm?


          
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Suloo
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Posted : Oct 22, 2007 19:46

no i mean aliasing...heard that example in our course about digital technology...and the guy made an example of it how it sounds like in wavelab...but maybe i will get even more crazy results with something like morphing...cause its made for that kind of sound like ...and not to use an technical issue for being creative..
but maybe i will never get the typical aliasing sound out of that..
will see...thx
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Glitch_CapeTown
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Posted : Oct 23, 2007 00:03
Aliasing is when eroneous frequencies either over 20k or under 20hz get introduced into the system which results in sumthing like if the sound is at 33k, it cant be represented there so it introduces noises at the next harmonic down...

its sumthing like this, im not 100% sure tho           [[[G|L|I|T|C|H]]]
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MadScientist
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Posted : Oct 23, 2007 07:14
not exactly

as far as I know, alialising comes from the nyquist theoreme...

it says that the highest displayable frequency is the half of the sample rate, because you need at least 2 points to display a wave properly...all frequencies above that get "mirrored" at the highest displayable frequency, means at 44.1khz its 22.05khz...so if a wave is at 23khz, it would be mirrored to 21.1khz

hope this helped a bit and please correct me if its not totally right

EDIT: I forgot to add that this causes unharmonic distortion since the mirrored frequencies get mixed up with the frequencies that are really in the mirrored range...so imo, its defenately better to do this with morphing/layering           https://soundcloud.com/hazak

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Glitch_CapeTown
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Posted : Oct 23, 2007 14:48
YES THATS IT!
I forgot the exact explanation coz we learned this at the begining of the year           [[[G|L|I|T|C|H]]]
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