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Spindrift
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Posted : Jun 16, 2007 15:23
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On 2007-06-16 14:51, Seppa wrote:
just a word of topic: I hate the freeze function.
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Works great for me in Abelton anyway.
I'm not so keen on going back and changing stuff around....once I'm happy with how a part sounds then that's it....kind of like the old-school tape style of working.
For me that is a much more productive way of working than going back and forth and changing things over and over again.
Having said that, it's easy enough to unfreeze if you do happen to feel the need to change something, and like I said it's not often I need to use freeze anyway.
And I hardly make minimal music and usually have quite plentiful number of plugins running.
I do use my scope card quite a lot though, so that takes a bit of load of the CPU, and I have a extremely tweaked windows....the OS itself takes 32MB of RAM on my install.
Each and everyone to their own, but I really don't get the advice that first invest in the part that anyway looses it's value extremely quickly to be able to run maximum number of plugins at the same time even if it's means working with bad monitoring.
A super fast computer with only a pair of headphones for monitoring will never be more than a toy, but with a low specced machine and a pair of decent monitors you at least have the possibility to produce quality music.
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Seppa
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Posted : Jun 16, 2007 17:57
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| Each and everyone to their own, but I really don't get the advice that first invest in the part that anyway looses it's value extremely quickly to be able to run maximum number of plugins at the same time even if it's means working with bad monitoring. |
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Well, I think a good pair of headphone like the dt 150 is hardly a bad pair of monitoring. Headphones are not good for stereo imaging but they do have a good sound definition that allows to compose.
I do compose often with headphones, I find it more creative, don't know why though.
Good headphones are definitely better than average monitors. Sound wise average monitor won't be as good as good heaphones, and even if you cannot work on the stereo imaging with a pair of headphones you can still get it to sound great.
When he will have enough, he will be happy to mix it properly with a pair of monitor that gives accurate stereo imaging and defined sound,if thats his wish, or just move on to new tracks and take full advantage of a proper setup that will last long.
On top of that the price of core2duo went pretty low and the ram went down dramatically pair of ram 2 gig corsair 800mhz was £200 is now £80.Now is the good time to invest . he won't need to spend more than 500 quid for the complete config.
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trancedelux
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Posted : Jun 16, 2007 19:53
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Hi, I would have loved to see this thread ending with nice comments and nice words...Unfortunately, this is the second thread I open which has been hijacked by arrogance.
Anyways.. Seppa, things aren't as simple as you think. If I wanted to save on the PC, was not only to get a soundcard. Remember I need a controller/synth of my own and monitors, at least. So I'm not cutting the PC specs just to get a $100 soundcard. Happens that this $100 soundcard fits my needs for the time being, and I decided to go step by step. I didn't think it was really necessary to explain that, but I'm doing it so you can see a bigger and more complete picture, and think things twice before you judge something.
Having said this, I do recognize that sometimes I can take stupid decissions and make some nonsense comments hehe.. I think you'd forgive me for that; after all, we're humans right?
Thanks for you financial advices man, but since I will only spend $850 on the PC+soundcard (I borrowed a midi controller from a friend to start), I think I can afford a good pair of monitors in the near future for around $800.
Maybe i'm not going for the "perfect combo" right away, but I think I'm doing the right choice. I think that the PC I'd build (P4 3.2 Ghz - 2Gb ram) + Emu 0404 + good monitors are a very good start. In 6-12 more months I'll buy a better soundcard, If I need it. And I can sell the Emu 0404 in Chile for the same price I'll pay in USA.. so I'll have a "free" soundcard to start with.
Regarding your offer to advice me on good headphones, I could use that info.. as I could use the info that "everyone's opinion" on this forum could provide me. I dont' think that those two options aren't compatible. I think that's the essence of a FORUM...having lots of opinions and to discuss them. I don't think there's a lack of knowledge in other people. But if you think so, maybe you could open your own personal blog to share all of your knowledge.
I'm so happy i'm gonna start doing this.. thanks everybody!
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On 2007-06-16 13:18, Seppa wrote:
Saving on the computer parts to get a $100 audio interface is stupid to say the least.
I would stick to your computer setup without saving. YOu're bying a computer today. Some of those advicing you to get a lower config have bought theirs years ago. todays programs run best on todays hardware...... Be very carefull, you could regret it.
Build your system slowly, or you will find yourself bying more then once the same item, because you were not satified. So build your pc get this $100 soundcard if thats what you want. get good headphones and save up for some good monitor which you don't need right now and you cannot afford now anyway wether you save up or not on the computer.
Second once you get good monitor you gonna want to get a good sound card. so save up.
You can get a good pair of headphones for £100-£150 in the mean time. its best to do music on good headphones than on average monitor. I can tell you which one is the best in my opinion but you're free to go and start a thread to get everyone's opinion.
Save up ...Save up! If you don't want to waste your money and time.
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orange
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Posted : Jun 16, 2007 20:43
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trancedelux
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Posted : Jun 16, 2007 21:31
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Here we go again hahahaa
Atropa-fatdata, I could really use info about the new PC specs.. Iwas going for P4 because is a good technology IMCO (in my clueless opinion hehe), and much cheaper than Core 2 duo.
In fact, I was thinking to get an AMD motherboard and cpu.. I don't know really.
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Spindrift
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Posted : Jun 16, 2007 22:14
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The core duos seem to perform very well and beat the current AMD chips.
But for the older processors AMD is better.
Not only do they give more power for the money, but the P4 have the denormalisation problem.
Basically some plugins might start using CPU like crazy due to a problem with the processor.
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Posted : Jun 17, 2007 00:38
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Seppa
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Posted : Jun 17, 2007 13:36
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Trancedelux I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings before, I could think twice before writing.
I beleive the reference to "stupid" must have annoyed you. Again I'm sorry.
You're the one asking for advice so it was really not aimed at you or to anyone for that matter. The concept was stupid in my opinion but I should have used an other word. its just the way I'm, I don't mean anything by that.
You had something good going on, and you change your approach following the advice of some of our fellow isratrancer. I just tried to warn you cause I didn't think it was the right thing to do. I did understand very well and I did talk about monitoring too not only about the sound card, and I give alternatives. So I don't really follow the little sarcastic explanation you just gave me.
Atropa and I see things a certain way and spindrift and Kalimamboh see it an other (new school, old school). Nothing wrong with both you're free to choose. But your choice will have an impact on your sound, guarantee. So try to find out how people with a different setup work and make your decision.
Little word, what makes you think I want to start my own blog. Is that a way to thank me for all the info I gave you ?
As you say its a forum so this thread is to be red by other members its not only for you. I just put my opinion through, and arguing on a subject is ok, thats why its a forum. We don't have to agree to participate. |
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Seppa
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Posted : Jun 17, 2007 14:17
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| Maybe i'm not going for the "perfect combo" right away, but I think I'm doing the right choice. I think that the PC I'd build (P4 3.2 Ghz - 2Gb ram) + Emu 0404 + good monitors are a very good start. In 6-12 more months I'll buy a better soundcard, If I need it. And I can sell the Emu 0404 in Chile for the same price I'll pay in USA.. so I'll have a "free" soundcard to start with. |
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Hey man, if thats what your want go for it. You made your decision based on the info given, if thats suits you best thats cool!  |
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trancedelux
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Posted : Jun 20, 2007 21:53
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About the graphic card.. would 128 Mb be enough? I want something inexpensive.. and 128 is cheaper than 256.. |
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