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trancedelux
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Posted : Jun 6, 2007 23:22
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Seppa
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trancedelux
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Posted : Jun 7, 2007 00:00
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Thanks Seppa.
About the firewire and pci ports, what should I look for? or those ports come with the Intel motherboard?? clearly, I don't have a clue hehe |
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Seppa
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Posted : Jun 7, 2007 00:01
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| Motherboard Intel DP965LT intel 965
CPU Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 Dual 2.4Ghz – 4Mb
RAM Corsair TWIN2X2048-6400 2Gb DDR2 PC6400 800Mhz CL5 matched pair
System drive Samsung HD080HJ SpinPoint P80 80Gb – SATA300, 7200 rpm, 8MB
Audio Drive Samsung SP2504C SpinPoint P120 250Gb – SATA300, 7200 rpm, 8MB
Heatsink Noctua NH-U12F the best and more silent heat sink on the market
This system have been tested and run through the most demanding audio task and sold. Its a minimal config non raid but its ok. I Always recommend raid but you're on a limited budget.
This motherboard does not have a raid controller. so if you want a serious raid youll need to get a seperate controller.(raid that come with motherboard are rubish anyway. you need the controller to have its own bus for truly speedy raid.
Don't go for for a processor under the 6600.... you loose too much power and save little.
The motherboard you see on top is the one that is the most stable, she's equiped with intel p965 chipset and ti firewire too.the mobo cost around £60 in the uk
The ram: buy this one trust me.
hd: get the 2 of them if you can, one for the system and other stuff not related to audio.
The second, the biggest for audio (project, sound bank ect....
If you can't get both, get the 250 samsung. nothing wrong with the seagate. but the samsung is very silent and has great performances. they cost about the same
The other component won't matter much for audio, just make sure you use new technologies not old stuff.
This system is not for overclock(mine flies), there is other stuff for that if you want more detail, let me know
Some suggestion for the sound card:
get a tc electronic: konnekt. they are very good and cheap for their quality. great converters.
If you feel like spending more and getting something for good get an rme 400.
And I agree wiht you save up for some good monitors. |
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Its all in there if you go through It, I mentioned which chip for the firewire..Ti
http://www.intel.com/products/motherboard/dp965lt/index.htm |
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Seppa
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Posted : Jun 7, 2007 00:03
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You can go for it with no worries. Its been thought for you already. |
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trancedelux
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Posted : Jun 7, 2007 00:14
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Sorry, what is raid and raid controller?
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Seppa
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Posted : Jun 7, 2007 00:25
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Raid is a controller that allows to put 2 or more hd into an array. There are different modes . The stripped mode consist in having 2 hardrives in parallele. IF you save a data to your array, it'll be split in two where half the info will go to the first disk and the other half to the second disk. hard memory speed is therefore doubled cause you use two disk to store and recall datas.In other words your harddisk system will be much faster.
In windows you will still see one drive so your operation is the same you don't have to do anything.
The reason you need a raid drive for audio application besides the obvious speed gain, is the fact that a single drive will only allow you to have around 16 tracks being able to play simultaniously on your Daw which can be limiting for any serious engineer or producer.
Adding a second drive to your setup without a raid is not gonna change anything.
You can produce without it. When the time comes and you really feel you need one, just get a pci controller raid and you'll be set.
Since you don't seem to have to much knowledge concerning all this, I advice you to read all the manuals that will come with your parts, or/and get some help from someone who does know.
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Spindrift
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Posted : Jun 7, 2007 02:10
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On 2007-06-07 00:25, Seppa wrote:
The reason you need a raid drive for audio application besides the obvious speed gain, is the fact that a single drive will only allow you to have around 16 tracks being able to play simultaniously on your Daw which can be limiting for any serious engineer or producer.
Adding a second drive to your setup without a raid is not gonna change anything.
You can produce without it. When the time comes and you really feel you need one, just get a pci controller raid and you'll be set.
Since you don't seem to have to much knowledge concerning all this, I advice you to read all the manuals that will come with your parts, or/and get some help from someone who does know.
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I must say that there was many many years ago I encountered a drive that had problems with 16 stereo tracks.
It used to be an issue in the mid 90's and you had to use SCSI to do any serious multi track recording, but those days are long gone and I wouldn't worry about having a limited track count with a modern HD without a RAID configuration.
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Seppa
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Posted : Jun 7, 2007 02:47
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| I must say that there was many many years ago I encountered a drive that had problems with 16 stereo tracks.
It used to be an issue in the mid 90's and you had to use SCSI to do any serious multi track recording, but those days are long gone and I wouldn't worry about having a limited track count with a modern HD without a RAID configuration. |
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It is not about having 10 or 50 track in a daw project but about running simultanious audio file.
According to hardisk speed 5400 7200 or 10000 rpm they are limit known today. This value can be strecht a little from one brand to another but not much.
I agree many people here must feel confortable with a single drive..
Its not my case .... I'm sure some of you here feel the same. |
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Kadavr
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Posted : Jun 7, 2007 07:11
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On 2007-06-06 23:15, atropa-fatdata wrote:
vista compatibility for the future!
psu - antec, hyper, heroichi, tagan, thermaltake
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yeah but that means bugs and glitches for the next year, like xp got very stable with sp2, so i don't see any reason to upgrade now, not until some service packs come out, plus you can always upgrade later.
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Kadavr
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Posted : Jun 7, 2007 07:16
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i will also be building a new pc soon for motherboards i am considering the Asus P5B Deluxe and the P5W DH Deluxe with either E6600 at 2.4 ghz or E6700 at 2.6, i've heard good this about both of these boards anyway can suggest something? |
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Spindrift
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Posted : Jun 7, 2007 07:40
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On 2007-06-07 02:47, Seppa wrote:
It is not about having 10 or 50 track in a daw project but about running simultanious audio file.
According to hardisk speed 5400 7200 or 10000 rpm they are limit known today. This value can be strecht a little from one brand to another but not much.
I agree many people here must feel confortable with a single drive..
Its not my case .... I'm sure some of you here feel the same. |
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I'm aware that what matters when it comes to hard disk performance is not how many tracks you have in your project, but how many is actually playing or being recorded at the same time.
I don't know where you got the idea that I meant anything else.
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The reason you need a raid drive for audio application besides the obvious speed gain, is the fact that a single drive will only allow you to have around 16 tracks being able to play simultaniously on your Daw which can be limiting for any serious engineer or producer.
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Unless you are working with 96 or 192k samplerate you can easily expect more than 16 tracks of 24 bit audio from a standard 7200 rpm IDE drive.
For example digidesign claim that a drive that meets their requirements can do 32 tracks of 24/48 audio, and that's a pretty conservative figure.
Sure if you have a lot of money spare and think 192k sample rate and more than 16 tracks playing at once will sound awesome, go for a 1500 rpm SCSI RAID configuration.
If you are just starting out I would say there is better things to spend your money on like good monitors, soundcard, controller, and display(s).
That's stuff that don't loose it value as fast and hopefully doesn't need to be replaced too quickly.
And IMHO stuff that's much more important for having a productive environment rather than the maximum track count or processing power.
Having said that, don't skip on the quality of the components in your computer.
Motherboard, RAM, cooling and PSU should be top quality if you want a stable and reliable setup but today systems is powerful enough even if you don't get the very latest and fastest.
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orange
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Posted : Jun 7, 2007 09:56
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On 2007-06-06 23:15, atropa-fatdata wrote:
vista compatibility for the future!
psu - antec, hyper, heroichi, tagan, thermaltake
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yeah but that means bugs and glitches for the next year, like xp got very stable with sp2, so i don't see any reason to upgrade now, not until some service packs come out, plus you can always upgrade later.
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where do u see me say to upgrade to vista?
i say for future vista compatibility!
win xp is the operating system for audio for now!
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Kadavr
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Posted : Jun 7, 2007 18:27
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my bad, i misunderstood |
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Seppa
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Posted : Jun 8, 2007 00:24
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You'd you please give me the link of that info please.
Every professional studio running protools that I saw and worked at had at least an 1 raid array, while most even had those digi rack with many arrays.........
here's the chart: by digidesign then.
http://www.digidesign.com/index.cfm?navid=54&langid=100&categoryid=35&itemid=23144
Info is at the bottom of the page comparing firewire and scsi at different 44.1/48 kH
ata going about the same speed its not mentioned check firewire.
24 track for a single drive......... thats 12 stereo tracks.
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