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want the real industry secret to make succesfull hits ?? get in :)

Elad
Tsabeat/Sattel Battle

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Posted : Apr 19, 2007 15:14






daft punk

i thought its amazing
what u think now ?!

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A-Holes
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Apr 19, 2007 15:17
hehehe well.... i tihnk ill go now to find myself something very very old and make it mine......

hehehehe loosers
eXuUs
Exuus

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Posted : Apr 19, 2007 15:18
hehe thats funny ,. but they do better sound !!!           www.exuus.com
Saf


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Posted : Apr 20, 2007 01:01
Someone told me a long time ago that Mr Oizo was a Daft Punk side project. I just looked it up and that's not even close to being true, except they're both french.

Do they master their own music? Is there any reason for me to think Daft Punk is cool at all now?

Pythagoraz
TimeDrained / Pythagoraz

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Posted : Apr 20, 2007 02:25
I don't get it... what's the big deal?

You can't seriously claim that you didn't know Daft Punk use samples? -actually i thought that was the whole point with that filtered House/tech-dance-whatever stuff?...

:s

then again what the fuck do I know!
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Get-a-fix
Getafix

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Posted : Apr 20, 2007 02:58
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On 2007-04-20 01:01, Saf wrote:
Is there any reason for me to think Daft Punk is cool at all now?



Sure dude! Sampling doesn't change the fact that they make some funky and groovy shit!           http://www.soundcloud.com/getafixmusic
Saf


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Posted : Apr 20, 2007 10:30
Yeah but I mean the sampled elements are almost the whole thing

On the other hand, perhaps I could take a lesson from them, and write a 2 bar loop like 'Around the World' and called it a day instead of trying to make these 6-10 minute trance masterpieces that I never finish.

Anyway, don't take me seriously, all music has some virtue.
Seppa


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Posted : Apr 20, 2007 12:48
the father of one of the duo is a 70s famous french disco producer and they obiously have inheritate his knowledge. they do quality music and i'm sure as hell they know what their talkin about. they use mainly analog gear.

good music is not about complexity, what they do is pretty simple , their technics is used in hiphop and bigbeat ect...

fatboyslim chemical brothers.........ect...... they all sample but they produces and are very creative. they still play lead lines and make there own bass, percussion.ect... its actually not that different from making trance exept there is this real acoustic feel that adds something and definatly makes it less synthetic. hence the top charts.

trance will never be there because of that.... it probably doesn''t want to be there either....
Elad
Tsabeat/Sattel Battle

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Posted : Apr 20, 2007 13:08
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On 2007-04-20 12:48, Seppa wrote:
the father of one of the duo is a 70s famous french disco producer and they obiously have inheritate his knowledge (u meen he is old enough to remember songs peaple dont know too good , and are good option to steal , what knowledge ???).
they do quality music (its not their music) and i'm sure as hell they know what their talkin about. they use mainly analog gear (as well the original producers , its old stuff there was no digial anyway , beside , who care what they use to steal song , they could only use the analog "record" button , or simply "ctrl-c / ctrl-v").

good music is not about complexity (yes it is) , what they do is pretty simple (yeah , record and remaster) , their technics is used in hiphop and bigbeat ect... (yeah evryone is thief lets do it too)

fatboyslim chemical brothers.........ect...... they all sample but they produces and are very creative. they still play lead lines and make there own bass (their OWN bass , notice the huge diffence) , percussion.ect... its actually not that different from making trance (yeah , skazi trance) exept there is this real acoustic feel that adds something and definatly makes it less synthetic. hence the top charts. (yeah well , exept its not them , they use other peaples songs to get there , probably songs that been on tops anywayz)

trance will never be there because of that.... it probably doesn''t want to be there either.... (hehe yeah right , its allready happened alot , the word psy dont make it any better when peaple copy , the word unique , own , original - this is quality)



"they used analog gear???"

dude , if u dont see that its COPY 100% without even 1% of original work
they copy entire song only make the general sound abit better. thats super lame.

if u dint respect the original artist that COMOPOSE the tune , for me its like u admit u care shit about art.


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Saf


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Posted : Apr 20, 2007 13:32
That's tears it, I'm getting an analog computer...
Elad
Tsabeat/Sattel Battle

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Posted : Apr 20, 2007 14:13
btw - some research shows me they copied mainly loops , and put in new lyrics , still smells like skazi , tho daft punk have much better song choise for sure!
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Seppa


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Posted : Apr 20, 2007 15:28
hehe, I like that ......


ok so according to you guys sample based music is no good....

fair enough! Ichallenge you to do hits like daft punk. use any source you want... lets see what you guys come up with.
if you do some research you ll get to find some of their interviews, will find out what gear they use ...... the first album of daft punk was released in 1997 do you really think that was computer music ? I mean the use of computer is been there for a while but computer music is relying only on a computer more or less do make a piece and in 97 you did not have analog sounding synth or analog sounding vsts.

there sound sounds analog and analog does not mean using a mood modular but also ext hardware gear like thermionic culture vulture Valve Distortion Unit, or mutators, old pedals..... . they do and i can hear it.


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if u dint respect the original artist that COMOPOSE the tune , for me its like u admit u care shit about art.



lol . art ? that's a very subjective thing. and i won't discuss it with you.

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That's tears it, I'm getting an analog computer...



you definitely should !
Enertopia
Enertopia

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Posted : Apr 20, 2007 16:16
I played with DAFT PUNK at the Dance and Levi's 2 festival in Israel.

First of all, they are extremely snobish, they dont talk to no body, not even the media.
But, they gave a super nice LIVE show, all analog and sequences.

very very GROOVEY.
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FaceHead
FaceHead

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Posted : Apr 20, 2007 16:34
dAfT indeed.
Seppa


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Posted : Apr 21, 2007 21:36
So tsabeat my man !

how about this challenge are you up for it ?

show us , the real industry secret to make succesfull hits !

I mean there is nothing stronger than facts to prove a theory.....

if it works you might even win more than being just right,.With a hit come loads of good things, like fame , money.....opportunities....

so what do you say ?!
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