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wanna try a rmx ?
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splinter
Splinter / Kode Six
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Posted : Mar 17, 2006 19:04
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hey how much time left? |
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le barde
Electrypnose
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Posted : Mar 17, 2006 19:30
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thanks for some kind supports.. i was well disapointed about the situation.
and no dead line in fact, no contest, nothing.
i just refresh the rules :::
no rules at all !! 
you do what you want with the package available.
you could even use parts of it and release the track without advising me.
it's just cool to hear the work made, i could make mastering and promote good pieces to labels.
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Ghost Host
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Posted : Mar 17, 2006 20:13
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On 2006-03-17 19:30, le barde wrote:
you do what you want with the package available.
you could even use parts of it and release the track without advising me.
it's just cool to hear the work made, i could make mastering and promote good pieces to labels.
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ah that's really nice from ya mate, thx a lot 
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Cardinals Cartel
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Posted : Mar 18, 2006 06:02
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Well .. Lets forget from all idea
I dont have any sources to get
so down in to the height ot this
words , behavior and rattling .
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le barde
Electrypnose
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Posted : Mar 18, 2006 17:08
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// quoting a pm message from Metamorphosis //
Like I did mention on the rmx thread I'd like to ask you couple of questions if you would be kind enough and have enough of time to give me some feedback.
After getting a second hand Cubase SX I've been learning to do some MIDI sequencing among some live multitrack recording. Back in the old days I used to do some tracker stuff as well so composing and related stuff isn't totally unfamiliar thing to me. Now that I'm able to use this less or more modern technology I've hauled some free plugins like Superwave P8, Synth1 and ReBirth but yet I'm still unable to create a soundscapes similar to this track you published for remixing.
Thus I'd like to ask you if you could share any information about creating this song. I like very much all the little details in it (like the crunchy voices, fx's) but have no faintest idea how these have been made. Nothing comes as close to annoyance as the fact that you can imagine just the right kind of voice you'd want to use but don't know hell about how to produce one.
I don't have much of hardware synths, just the N5EX for keyboard and general sounds. That's why I'm so far counting quite much to VST's but probably going to get a Virus or some similar VA. That said it's much more presumable that I'll build a SID or some analog synthesizer of my own before that happens
ANY information is being appreciated that you can give, but if you feel like sharing the information I'm more than happy to continue this messaging.
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well, i'll give you some ideas and personal opinion about.
first, about using hardware material or vsti/vst ... the fact is that you could without problem do stuffs like your favourite artist only with a computer, a good virtual studio software and couple of plugins.
the biggest recommendation i could give, is to get good monitor speakers.
with a pc (a good horse), cubase, plugins and good monitors, you can get the level and quality of infected mushroom or whatever.. that's definatly sure.
of course, hardware material is a big plus in the sound. but like i read once in a good forum, it's that hardware material is most often virtual /analog. that's mean a processor with a soundcard. (so, finaly a vsti in a box)
ok, i go a bit offtopic .. but this is just to say that's it's wrong to think you will get an amazing sound when you'll have bought your virus C. hmmm, of course it's a very good machine .. but needs work with .. like for everything.
and personaly, i made lot of tracks which sounds very bad .. with a virus, a nordlead and a Q.
now about the way to produce.
personaly i use cubase and fruitloops rewiered. I know derango use this configuration, and some other good friends like Tsabeat, or Guinea Pigs.
it's a wonderful configuration regarding that cubase is very bad for sequencing, you need a good sequencer in cubase in any case, imo of course.
some tips i could say, to get more details in your production... is for example, in FL, put several drum samples. 10 for example. link some of them into different fx channels, and put some different fx...
with about the same idea. make a lead with a vsti, or a good loop, whatever.
when you have it in cubase, cut several parts of it, stretch, reverse and especially put offline proceed fx on parts.
it's the way i use to do.
no magical way at all. (except what happen when you listen to the work)
you all certainly have most of the same pluggins as me.
i could once upload a little example made on FL ... this could give you some ideas how to hold the sound.
i'll do soon.
and metamorphosis, if you build up an analog synth by yourself, this is just really great.
i always thought that the combination of analog noise manipulated with digital solutions, is a crazy combination.
so ... feel free to ask more precisions, or any question are welcome.
peace
lb
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cavedave
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Posted : Mar 18, 2006 18:44
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=) Hello electrypnose!! We also downloaded, and gonna translate it to caveish or whatever! 
This was a great idea by you, respecT!
/dave & fadi
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Metamorphosis
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Posted : Mar 18, 2006 19:20
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Well I guess this is just one step at a time journey like in any other learning process. O'course I didn't expect it to be otherwise. But like I said in the pm conversation, I come from totally different world of music. I don't mean by any means that I'm trying to replicate some specified sounds (on any track out there) but to learn the basic techniques how things work in creating these. After that I can evolve new wicked stuff of my own. Gotta learn to walk before attempting to run!
On the other hand it just might be that my slow progress come from the fact that I'm not a musician but an engineer. Then again it gives me some freedom to create something totally new.. Maybe I'll come up to something useful some day, will see.
But hey, thanks for the reply and your time! I'll just try harder and continue figuring out things. Too bad that it's the job that is most of time keeping me away from this business!
Cheers,
Metamorphosis
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Invizible Kid
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Posted : Mar 18, 2006 19:53
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i'm the first who need money, especially to buy my new x-box and a plasma screen
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Yeah, no joke buddy! I was gonna ask how you'd respond to a downtempo remix if it would help me fund a nice new big-arsed LCD and Xbox 360, ya fuckin punk!  |
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Sound Surgeon
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Posted : Mar 18, 2006 21:08
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Is this enough for making a remix?
No midi chords or sound samples are needed?
Only a few wav tracks are enough to write a remix to a track?
I always thought that if someone want to make a remix he gets some of the original samples and midi chords and stuff like that.
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Freeflow
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Posted : Mar 19, 2006 13:35
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"it's a wonderful configuration regarding that cubase is very bad for sequencing"
i think its the other way around.. FL dont suit my way of sequencing, but FL´s innovative layout and smart ways of handling stuff is great for fast composing..
but classical sequencing ala cubase, logic, cakewalk is what i like....
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le barde
Electrypnose
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Posted : Mar 19, 2006 23:56
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yup ...
NES, i guess my opinion about cubase & sequencing was a bit disapropried ... regarding i produce with FL since 5 years .. so, it's just a personal loved way to do
but btw, i would be interested how you would manage a kick trick, with pitch and pan .. without a sequencer used as vsti ??
(for example, in logic we could use exs24, but in cubase ?? is there an internal sequencer ?)
and if someone would like some midi parts, i can send by e-mail. I just noticed i lost the first lead midi sequence, because i used it to do a next one. .. hmmm
one more thing, Vic from triplag.com
http://www.triplag.com
asked me if it would be possible to broadcast the best remixes on the online radio of the website.
nice promotion indeed, so i think the way to do is just to send him a pm when you got your version finished ...
thanks Vic ... (username :: fungusok) |
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Malice in Wonderland
Malice in Wonderland
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Posted : Mar 20, 2006 00:00
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hey LeBarde,
í noticed this topic very late, as usual, spending too much at the sound pc LOL
u surprise me once again, killer idea the rmx thing & truly your way as u share your music with us all... BIG RESPECT my friend!!
cheers, oli
PS i got the rmx package too... hear u soon
www.2to6.net
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Freeflow
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Posted : Mar 20, 2006 01:59
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Hey Le Barde
What do you use cubase for, if you dont arrange in it,? i,e put things into sequences?
when you talk about sequencer you mean step designer/pattern editor? it sounds like that...
when i talk about sequencer im refering to the program you put everything together with..
The kicktrick, hehe
well you can both use pan and pitch in cubase,
firstly i would put a kickdrum into a sequence, then i would merge it(bounch) then i would use the pitchshifter in cubase and draw the pitch envelop, then i would automate the pan....
then i would export the sequence. cause bounch wont include the channels pan/volume ect, ect..
its simple and i use no vst.
but sure maybe its faster in FL and maybe you get a more musical result faster. i really cant judge that right now.
anyway, cubase has a step desigener, which is very nice, but if you want to run a kick through it you need to use a vst sampler so you can use midi, cause the step designer only works in midi.
if you look at cubase as a whole, without its vst functions, its maybe not as rich of innovative ways and ideas as FL(remember FL is one big sampler).. but if you think outside the box and also use its vst functions you can make pretty much the same things as in FL.
i think cubase power comes with vst, and if you allow me to use a sampler i can make lots of stuff, combining all functions from midi and audio.
combining cubase and FL is a very nice way, even reason.
but i think you got you question answerd, yes you can make the kicktrick without vst in cubase..
i like FL aswell, but i have a little problem with its low output, it lacks loudness/clarity.. but its a nifty tool indeed..
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le barde
Electrypnose
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Posted : Mar 20, 2006 03:16
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thanks for the answer.
yeah, i got answered and it was exactly like i thought.
i know well all operations you mentionned.
i was also well speaking about step designer/pattern editor or piano roll.
for me cubase is more to build up all audio parts, and fl to make loops & midi sequences.
it's very useful to have your kick into a step editor, to not have to make all those operations to make some kind of tricks. of course, the bounce way is aslo amazing in some ways... both are very interesting.
and yeah, you got the point i was thinking about but i haven't developped much in the first post regarding this ... using FL in cubase is like have a very developped exs24 in logic.
so, thanks for time to clarify. i was just curious if i missed a big apparent thing in cubase .. coz i build up my tracks in cubase mainly since few months only.
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Get-a-fix
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Posted : Mar 20, 2006 17:29
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