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Vynil deepness and warmness
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Alien Bug
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Posted : Feb 28, 2012 16:15
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Taisto
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Posted : Feb 29, 2012 22:14
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Albertos
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Posted : Mar 5, 2012 23:44
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thanks for yor advices, i found intresting things in some combinations with some vst plugins, little distortion,with some good virtual tape saturator on send channels like reverbs ,delays- will make little magik with your sound. Also good comressed pads with some noise generation puted on the same group "with tape noise sample"+virtual saturator will give some real good feeling of tape warmness...keeping work to create good combinations ...later will upload sample....
Also i have tried new puigchild 660
http://www.waves.com/Content.aspx?id=7670
best comressor for me !
  www.soundcloud.com/albertos_music
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Upavas
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Posted : Mar 6, 2012 00:44
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Albertos
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Posted : Mar 6, 2012 01:05
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On 2012-03-06 00:44, Upavas wrote:
You will never get the full analog sound with all these vst's mentioned above, some of them will come close, but from what you posted me thinks that you are looking for a tube compressor... and some of them can be had cheaply...
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Maby , or maby not , i'am looking for everything that can make our sound better in warmness and deepness like a good vynil sounding, and i think that with modern vst's and fxs we can do everything to get our music alive ! Soon i will put some stuff on...
www.soundcloud.com/albertos_music
http://www.beatport.com/release/on-the-waves/814568 |
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Taisto
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Posted : Mar 8, 2012 01:30
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One nice warm vst tubecompressor is tubetech; http://www.softube.com/tubetech_cl1b.php
But to me all coloring/sound fattening (tape, distort, bitcrush, phaser..) comes after sound synthesis and before compressing, eq's are before and after compressor there and there.. but sends hell yeah, everything under the sky. I like add things with reverb on send, tape even.. nice sounding eq after reverb, absolutely..
Btw Albertos, how you feel Waves plugins over UAD dsp plugins, they kind of same models (from hardware compressors) but i never compare of them jet, i like uads a lot thought..
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Albertos
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Posted : Mar 8, 2012 01:47
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Albertos
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Posted : Mar 8, 2012 02:19
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On 2012-03-08 01:30, Taisto wrote:
One nice warm vst tubecompressor is tubetech; http://www.softube.com/tubetech_cl1b.php
Btw Albertos, how you feel Waves plugins over UAD dsp plugins, they kind of same models (from hardware compressors) but i never compare of them jet, i like uads a lot thought..
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Actualy i never used uad plugins , heard about their perfect responce and kind of magic sound that you got with .
In the pass i've used creamware/sonicore dsp ...luna 2 their plugins are also have some coloration effect!
To get color /contrast in track its tricky thing! Even if you will look in the pass you will see that not every track got that hot warmness with analogue equipment and tapes etc... just listen to old stuff 80,90, NOT EVERY ONE GOT REALLY good warmness and deepness.
I know one really good trick to get one- take the noise sample of really one tapemashine or vynil put on stereo expander on (0%mono------stereo50%------extrawide100%) edit from 20%-30% http://www.goldbaby.co.nz/vinyldrummachine.html
send that sample to group ,add some vsti chords or whatever send to the same group,comress it with puighild (waves) or other tube comressor ,add reverb small room ,add stereo expander with edit of 60%-100%wide,add some saturation with brightness control, sountoys Decapitator will be perfect !
www.soundcloud.com/albertos_music
http://www.beatport.com/release/on-the-waves/814568 |
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b0Lt
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Posted : Mar 9, 2012 21:28
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On 2012-03-08 02:19, Albertos wrote:
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On 2012-03-08 01:30, Taisto wrote:
One nice warm vst tubecompressor is tubetech; http://www.softube.com/tubetech_cl1b.php
Btw Albertos, how you feel Waves plugins over UAD dsp plugins, they kind of same models (from hardware compressors) but i never compare of them jet, i like uads a lot thought..
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Actualy i never used uad plugins , heard about their perfect responce and kind of magic sound that you got with .
In the pass i've used creamware/sonicore dsp ...luna 2 their plugins are also have some coloration effect!
To get color /contrast in track its tricky thing! Even if you will look in the pass you will see that not every track got that hot warmness with analogue equipment and tapes etc... just listen to old stuff 80,90, NOT EVERY ONE GOT REALLY good warmness and deepness.
I know one really good trick to get one- take the noise sample of really one tapemashine or vynil put on stereo expander on (0%mono------stereo50%------extrawide100%) edit from 20%-30% http://www.goldbaby.co.nz/vinyldrummachine.html
send that sample to group ,add some vsti chords or whatever send to the same group,comress it with puighild (waves) or other tube comressor ,add reverb small room ,add stereo expander with edit of 60%-100%wide,add some saturation with brightness control, sountoys Decapitator will be perfect !
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o...m...g... why not adding a bitcrusher, reducing samplerate to 12bit, add some distortion, and compress after all ?
seriously, you are DESTROYING your signal.. if you want that "warmness" or "fatness" (all those introduced terms of a good marketing company, that always will catch the noobs) then add some pink noise at 50/60hz and thats it! all this "magic" doesnt exist man.. you have to get over it fast, and start thinking about producing in 2012, not in 1985! |
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Taisto
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Posted : Mar 11, 2012 11:54
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On 2012-03-08 02:19, Albertos wrote:
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On 2012-03-08 01:30, Taisto wrote:
One nice warm vst tubecompressor is tubetech; http://www.softube.com/tubetech_cl1b.php
Btw Albertos, how you feel Waves plugins over UAD dsp plugins, they kind of same models (from hardware compressors) but i never compare of them jet, i like uads a lot thought..
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Actualy i never used uad plugins , heard about their perfect responce and kind of magic sound that you got with .
In the pass i've used creamware/sonicore dsp ...luna 2 their plugins are also have some coloration effect!
To get color /contrast in track its tricky thing! Even if you will look in the pass you will see that not every track got that hot warmness with analogue equipment and tapes etc... just listen to old stuff 80,90, NOT EVERY ONE GOT REALLY good warmness and deepness.
I know one really good trick to get one- take the noise sample of really one tapemashine or vynil put on stereo expander on (0%mono------stereo50%------extrawide100%) edit from 20%-30% http://www.goldbaby.co.nz/vinyldrummachine.html
send that sample to group ,add some vsti chords or whatever send to the same group,comress it with puighild (waves) or other tube comressor ,add reverb small room ,add stereo expander with edit of 60%-100%wide,add some saturation with brightness control, sountoys Decapitator will be perfect !
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Thanks for the tips! Their always welcome.
Uad has new tape recorder dsp check that out.. http://www.uaudio.com/blog/ampex-atr-102-trailer/
Yea, and bOLt; check that trailer too, so you can learn something about warmness and deepness of sound, something else than digital noise.. |
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b0Lt
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Posted : Mar 11, 2012 19:53
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are you effin kidding me ? what do you think all those PLUGINS will add ? yea right... digital noise !
get a tape machine, or record to band for this "fatness" you searching for, or send to a mastering studio with those analog hardware. otherwise i really dont see why adding DIGITAL NOISE with those plugins. |
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Taisto
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Posted : Mar 12, 2012 07:03
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On 2012-03-11 19:53, b0Lt wrote:
are you effin kidding me ? what do you think all those PLUGINS will add ? yea right... digital noise !
get a tape machine, or record to band for this "fatness" you searching for, or send to a mastering studio with those analog hardware. otherwise i really dont see why adding DIGITAL NOISE with those plugins.
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What i mean is, noise is little bit more complicated thing than just simple word noise, as i understood from your post.. It is more deeper and wider and it act differently all the time. It LIVES, thats why.. Movement, character, attention, richness, fullness, clearness.. Those words dont mean nothing? |
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Upavas
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Posted : Mar 12, 2012 10:17
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On 2012-03-06 00:44, Upavas wrote:
You will never get the full analog sound with all these vst's mentioned above, some of them will come close, but from what you posted me thinks that you are looking for a tube compressor... and some of them can be had cheaply...
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Maby , or maby not , i'am looking for everything that can make our sound better in warmness and deepness like a good vynil sounding, and i think that with modern vst's and fxs we can do everything to get our music alive ! Soon i will put some stuff on...
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Well, just my 2 cents, good luck to you mate.
Upavas - Here And Now (Sangoma Rec.) new EP out Oct.29th, get it here:
http://timecode.bandcamp.com
http://upavas.com
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jonsta
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Posted : Mar 12, 2012 14:37
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splikz
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Posted : Mar 12, 2012 18:10
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better buy a tape recorder and pass the sound trough there.
I don't like any of the vinyl/analog plugin effects. |
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no more unfortunately, but life goes on..