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full_on
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Posted : May 24, 2007 05:43
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It is clear by the replies here that this name is aggressive to a lot of people.
I think this name is not appropriated, and suggest the artist should change it.
If he don't, I'm afraid we won't let him promote himself here, not only because we are 150% against what the word "VolkerMord" means, but also because every thread involving this artist will end up in a discussion about his artist name and the meaning of it, just like it happened here and it spreads a very bad vibe.
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mk47
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Posted : May 24, 2007 07:43
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meh .. what a lot of fuss .. wats in a name ppl ? now i dont know him personally but im pretty damn certain that he didnt really know what it meant at the time of deciding to call himself that .. relax .. why so touchy ?
go smoke some pot or somethn ..
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Meta
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Posted : May 24, 2007 08:03
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On 2007-05-24 07:43, mk47 wrote:
meh .. what a lot of fuss .. wats in a name ppl ?
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"What's in a name"? A lot.
If you named a new musical project "Kill The Jews", what do you think the response would be? Especially here? You DO understand, in the context of when the term was coined, this is essentially the exact translation of this word?
These sorts of cheap shock tactics is the essence of what gives the darkpsy scene a bad name and turns off people that might otherwise like the music. It has nothing to do with the true dark, primal psychedelic spirit of night time music... this is just stupid, ignorant teenagers having a competition to see who can be the most "hardcore".
Obviously this Indian teenager is not an actual Nazi or whatever, he's just doing whatever he can to offend as many people as possible to get people to pay attention to him. Ignorant, childish posturing.
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Inner Demon
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Posted : May 24, 2007 10:28
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On 2007-05-24 07:43, mk47 wrote:
meh .. what a lot of fuss .. wats in a name ppl ?
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"What's in a name"? A lot.
If you named a new musical project "Kill The Jews", what do you think the response would be? Especially here? You DO understand, in the context of when the term was coined, this is essentially the exact translation of this word?
These sorts of cheap shock tactics is the essence of what gives the darkpsy scene a bad name and turns off people that might otherwise like the music. It has nothing to do with the true dark, primal psychedelic spirit of night time music... this is just stupid, ignorant teenagers having a competition to see who can be the most "hardcore".
Obviously this Indian teenager is not an actual Nazi or whatever, he's just doing whatever he can to offend as many people as possible to get people to pay attention to him. Ignorant, childish posturing.
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mantramandalamoon
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Posted : May 24, 2007 11:49
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Out of everyone here, who has spoken against the name 'VolkerMord'...how many of you have actually heard his music???
After all this is a DJs & Artists forum no? Not a political forum. We want to use this space to talk about Tilak's sounds and his styles of psychedelic WHICH are really promising!
Besides, if you read the first few posts, Volkermord is ONE of his many projects he has, and he himself has said he is going to be producing under the name Phrike.
so calm yourselves, and let the man make his music. Listen to his styles first and then discuss the ideas you think are behind the project.
and please could we get back to discussing MUSIC and not politics/history??
Abhi
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Inner Demon
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Posted : May 24, 2007 14:23
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On 2007-05-24 11:49, mantramandalamoon wrote:
Out of everyone here, who has spoken against the name 'VolkerMord'...how many of you have actually heard his music???
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I haven't and it is largely irrelevant.. or.. I would say, you DO understand that the better his music is the more important the name becomes. If his music sucks and nobody will listen to it, then it isn't as important. We're actually trying to help here, because this name will ONLY land him in trouble. I even pointed out in an earlier post that most people will hear an artist's name before they hear the music...
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After all this is a DJs & Artists forum no? Not a political forum. We want to use this space to talk about Tilak's sounds and his styles of psychedelic WHICH are really promising!
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See above + I think its perfectly ok to discuss the name choice of an artist as it is the name under which he/she markets the music.
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Besides, if you read the first few posts, Volkermord is ONE of his many projects he has, and he himself has said he is going to be producing under the name Phrike.
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As far as I understood Phrike is his main at the moment, but that is a collaborastion project, Volkermord is his solo one.
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so calm yourselves, and let the man make his music. Listen to his styles first and then discuss the ideas you think are behind the project.
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I think most people are pretty calm and nobody's going to stop him from making his music, we're merely saying that it would be beneficial for everybody (especially him) if he changed name. Read full_on and Meta's posts...
Everyone who's defending volkermord seems to think this is an attack on tilak...
Let me say that even if it was my best best friend making super-killer music I'd still insist he'd change it. I wish tilak all success as an artist, you must realize this is not about him as a person, although of course, if he sticks with it I think it says something about him as a person. I rest my case.
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-dudi-
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Posted : May 24, 2007 14:48
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Wow things get pretty ugly around here
Ok heres what i think , even though i know tilak personally and hes absolutely swell ! i have to agree with inner demon and others.You dont want people relating your music to sad gruesome tragedies like that.Theres nuthing cool about it , would be like calling yourself jihad on america !! haha or wateva
Mistakes happen and we shud learn from em , and no one is attacking tilak here , just the name people are strongly objecting to , so if its such a sensitive issue , we shud forget about the name volkermord and delete it from our memories !
I think tilak said hes gonna be sticking on to the phrike project name for now ! good on ya mate ,
keep working on your music !
I just thought it was a very valid arguement and shud definitly be taken into consideration.No one here bashing tilak.Just helping each other evolve in a better direction:).
GO GOSWAMIIIIII !!
rock on brother
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xhEke
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Posted : May 24, 2007 15:12
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yes --==Bad Sector==--
im the guy in ur msn
because i wanted to ask u
because PM here doesnt work 4me ;S |
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duyoush
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Posted : May 24, 2007 17:40
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Im sure that this indian babu dont understand the real meaning of this word...
lets hope for him that he will change his name, couse he can expect to no future with this kind of name...
maybe we will send him to germany to perform to some shavehead's nezi's.. they will kick his skinny indian ass....LOL
Ppl need to understand that your name sometimes reflect the person.. and if this is what this guy whants then fuck him and his music and i hope that ppl will ban him and his music...
I dont have nothing againts this guy( as long that he didnt knew the meaning of this word), only the stupid name that he choose without thinking...
Cheers
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Kerberos
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Posted : May 24, 2007 17:47
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who cares about the name...his musik great !!!
for me its one of the best names which can have a dark psychedelic artist lol ...
Tilak bro...keep your VÖLKERMORD alive !!!!!!!!!!!!!
this is true horror psy name mauuahhuahuahuhuahua
BOOOOOMMMMMMM
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Liquidnoize
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Posted : May 24, 2007 18:00
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yo duyoush why??? dont start ...not worth it, read all the posts u will understand |
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Liquidnoize
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Posted : May 24, 2007 18:07
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couse he can expect to no future with this kind of name...
maybe we will send him to germany to perform to some shavehead's nezi's.. they will kick his skinny indian ass....LOL
duyoush:quote
Ppl need to understand that your name sometimes reflect the person.. and if this is what this guy whants then fuck him and his music and i hope that ppl will ban him and his music...
I dont have nothing againts this guy( as long that he didnt knew the meaning of this word), only the stupid name that he choose without thinking...
am very sure u r one who dint know the word well i dint too, so relax dont push it be in your space... they said it every one understood,
so try to keep peace and not like back home
more over he already said his solo project is now phrike so why go on like some fat ass 'i know where u are from'
peace out and god bless
Vinay
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duyoush
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Posted : May 24, 2007 18:14
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On 2007-05-24 18:07, Liquidnoize wrote:
couse he can expect to no future with this kind of name...
maybe we will send him to germany to perform to some shavehead's nezi's.. they will kick his skinny indian ass....LOL
duyoush:quote
Ppl need to understand that your name sometimes reflect the person.. and if this is what this guy whants then fuck him and his music and i hope that ppl will ban him and his music...
I dont have nothing againts this guy( as long that he didnt knew the meaning of this word), only the stupid name that he choose without thinking...
am very sure u r one who dint know the word well i dint too, so relax dont push it be in your space... they said it every one understood,
so try to keep peace and not like back home
more over he already said his solo project is now phrike so why go on like some fat ass 'i know where u are from'
peace out and god bless
Vinay
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can someone bring an eglish translater? ...
i dont know what u try to say man..let someone that know a"little" better english to writh instead of u...
beside that, i know the meaning of this word very good , and if i didnt knew, i wouldnt writh here nothing, so babu..u the one that need to relax ..go smoke a chillum or something..
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'i know where u are from' ?? lol...now u crack me up man,if i didnt knew u r an indian i would say u from the Sicily mafia grow up boy...
Cheers
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Posted : May 24, 2007 18:58
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read what iv posted about phrike .... yet want to debate and speak about it send me a pm or email.... let this post be regarding my "music" and not names
and secondly im not a teenager .... and im not skinny .. wish u were from my city would show u my lil skinny ass to then
anyways i repeat my main project is PHIRKE
if u yet wanna keep doing bla bla do it its fine with me ....
@jeto lol man when i told u il send u some of my demos u were soo eager to check them out lol ...
if someone liked my music and wanted info he got it .. you guys posted what ul felt im ok with that too
stop speaking about me being a teenager and askinny ass indian lol its stupid to pass these comments ... specially online .. different issue if we were in person would have been fun then
anyways if it did offend some ppl here im sorry ...there are ppl who got ofended there are ppl who liked it ....i cant balance it
nor am i asking all my msn contacts to come here and "drop a line"
read what mantramandalamoon posted
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Liquidnoize
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Posted : May 24, 2007 19:05
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me too! |
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