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Virus Ti vs Virus Ti Snow?
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minddoctorsmakeacid
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Posted : Jun 20, 2010 01:15:49
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Hi guys,
Can anyone tell me the diference between this 2 machines?
Is the Os the same for both?
Do both come with the same presets?
How many outputs can we have with virus snow?
And while Im whaiting to buy it can I get free samples of its effects?
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supergroover
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Posted : Jun 20, 2010 12:39
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Snow:
Its compact form factor makes the TI Snow an ideal choice for traveling musicians. It's footprint is not larger than an issue of Mix Magazine. Nevertheless it features the exact same sound engine of it's bigger brothers with about 50% of the voice count -- a top performer at every jam session. The patch select buttons make searching for the right sound a breeze and allow you to access any of the 1024 internal patches with four or fewer button clicks.
Virus TI
Features:
* more than 80 Stereo voices
* 512 RAm and 2048 ROM Patches
* 6 symmetrical single outputs with +4 dB
* 192kHz D/A converter
* WaveTable oscillator
* Hypersaw with up to 9 sawteeth and suboscillators
* 3 LFOs with 68 Waveforms
* Up to 129 effects parallel
* Reverb, Delay, Chorus, Phaser, Ring Modulator
* Distortion, 3-Band EQ and analogue boost per part
* free programmable arpeggiator per patch
* 2 mulitmode filters (HP, LP, BP, BS and analogue MiniMoog Filter-Model)
* remote mode for VST/AU Plug-Ins
* S/PDIF Out
* surround capable
* rosewood coloured
* sidepanels
* USB
Snow:
* Same Virus TI sound engine and software integration
* Analog and MIDI I/O
* Virtual Analog, Wavetable, and Granular oscillators
* Various filter types including Mini Moog cascade emulation
So I think the main difference is the outputs and the number of voices.
What do you mean by getting samples of its effects? On the access website you can listen to some examples of both synths.  soundcloud.com/supergroover |
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minddoctorsmakeacid
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Posted : Jun 20, 2010 17:35
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On 2010-06-20 12:39, supergroover wrote:
Snow:
Its compact form factor makes the TI Snow an ideal choice for traveling musicians. It's footprint is not larger than an issue of Mix Magazine. Nevertheless it features the exact same sound engine of it's bigger brothers with about 50% of the voice count -- a top performer at every jam session. The patch select buttons make searching for the right sound a breeze and allow you to access any of the 1024 internal patches with four or fewer button clicks.
Virus TI
Features:
* more than 80 Stereo voices
* 512 RAm and 2048 ROM Patches
* 6 symmetrical single outputs with +4 dB
* 192kHz D/A converter
* WaveTable oscillator
* Hypersaw with up to 9 sawteeth and suboscillators
* 3 LFOs with 68 Waveforms
* Up to 129 effects parallel
* Reverb, Delay, Chorus, Phaser, Ring Modulator
* Distortion, 3-Band EQ and analogue boost per part
* free programmable arpeggiator per patch
* 2 mulitmode filters (HP, LP, BP, BS and analogue MiniMoog Filter-Model)
* remote mode for VST/AU Plug-Ins
* S/PDIF Out
* surround capable
* rosewood coloured
* sidepanels
* USB
Snow:
* Same Virus TI sound engine and software integration
* Analog and MIDI I/O
* Virtual Analog, Wavetable, and Granular oscillators
* Various filter types including Mini Moog cascade emulation
So I think the main difference is the outputs and the number of voices.
What do you mean by getting samples of its effects? On the access website you can listen to some examples of both synths.
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Thanks a lot mate.
About the samples, I was trying to use some fx samples of it in my tracks as I was waiting to get it. But never mind Ill whait. |
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Ascension
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Posted : Jun 21, 2010 16:21
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Axis Mundi
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Posted : Jun 21, 2010 20:43
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They both have the same sound engine (patches on one may be used with the other) but the Snow has roughly half the DSP of the big one and only 4 MIDI channels as opposed to 16 on the big one. Having owned and used both in the studio and on stage, I can say this:
The differences I have described above have made no difference in my productions and performances. That being said, the big one is more self reliant in that you don't need an external keyboard or PC to use it properly, and has a knob for just about anything.
If you're strictly wanting this for the studio, I'd recommend the TI or the Polar.
If you tour/get booked extensively, get the Snow, hands down. Gigging with a full sized TI is a nightmare. I speak from experience.
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minddoctorsmakeacid
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Posted : Jun 21, 2010 22:43
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Thanks a lot guys. |
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Mute
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Posted : Jun 24, 2010 12:54
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i d say neither, set yourself apart from the rest!
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minddoctorsmakeacid
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Posted : Jun 24, 2010 17:30
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Good comment Mute but can you tell me where can I find a synth that has so much quality, versatility and is so easy to use as this?
Im with you mate and thats why I dont want the Nord Lead but when I saw the Virus Ti videos I was surprised with such easy access it provides.
If I could find one that had a cubase pannel like this and a very good quality I would go for it.
In fact I will now go and look for one, cheers. |
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Mute
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Posted : Jun 24, 2010 22:45
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none come to my mind however most hardware synths can be controlled via midi so there are software editors. If you want that sort of versatility there is nothing better then a vst synthesizer and nowdays vsts have come a long way and sound very very good imo.
I sold my Ti after alot of thinking and here is why.
1. The Virus control software makes it too easy and looking at a screen and using a mouse didnt help me move foward with my sound design.
2. At the moment with software vsts sounding so good with everything ITB from midi to audio (No external midi or audio connections) hanging on to a hardware for the sake of ease was not viable anymore for me.
3. The Ti sound doesnt appeal to me , the filters i didnt like.. The new converters sound tooo digital in a cheap way and with so many features added in updates it feels like a vst with a dongle. The oscillators by itself dont really sound good , but it shines with the fx onboard
4. Psytrance or trance generally is plagued with the Ti all over the planet. Many tracks sound the same because of it i think.
5. Again, i dont want to invest in digital gear now because emulations are very close.
I will buy a virus A because it sounds unpolished and harsher to my ear which i like just for the sake of if i wanna pull a certain sound out of it i know where to go...
People nowdays rely too much on Internet to base their descisions on , this is the problem here .Back in the day when there were no forums , everyone would go around and see what they liked rather then what someone thinks of a certain piece of gear , hence so much different music
Limiting yourself proves good!
Goodluck
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Ascension
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Posted : Jun 24, 2010 23:10
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^ But aren't there more producers out there with cracks of the same vsts than with a virus? Just sayin.... 
I understand what you're saying, but that's assuming when someone gets a virus that's all they use for sound design, which isn't always the case. There's plenty of other ways to stand out and be unique, but not owning an excellent piece of hardware that most people love isn't really one I would consider.
You're definitely right about choosing something based on what the individual wants, not just advice on a forum. http://soundcloud.com/ascensionsound
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minddoctorsmakeacid
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Posted : Jun 25, 2010 03:07
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Thanks mute, that really got me thinking.
I think I will go around synth shops and listen and try a few b4 I make an investment.
All the best mate. |
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supergroover
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Posted : Jun 25, 2010 09:50
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There is so much you can do with the TI and to me it sounds really good. So I don't really agree with you. I have made some pretty great sounds with the virus that i haven't been able to produce with any vst so far. Especially for basslines it really kicks ass and sounds alot tighter and fatter to my ears than any software i have used.
So i'd say: go for the TI!
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minddoctorsmakeacid
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Posted : Jun 25, 2010 17:54
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You guys are making my head spin...lol
But I have to thank you loads for the help. |
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Baba Yaga
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Posted : Jun 25, 2010 21:49
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 Here is another happy owner of the TI...i'm using desktop version for 3 years now and it's always soundz different to me heheh, no honestly....i know that TI soundz sometimes very digital, but it's up to YOU to make it soundz just how you need. Wouldn't be boooring if some synth can make "perfect" sound, there is no room for experiments and as Thomas says everyone would make same soundz...
Anyways, before you buy you definitely must try it for your self. Friend of mine was in the music shop playing with TI for some hours and was not convinced to buy it....but for me was enough to tweak knobs for 10 min and i felt in love with TI power and possibilities. Even now after 3 years using TI and also other synth's if you ask me would i buy TI again, i'd say YES!
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