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Djones
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Posted : Nov 24, 2009 02:45
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On 2009-11-10 02:39, Axis Mundi wrote:
I usually use a basic saw wave on Oscillator 1. On Oscillator 2 I usually use either a square or sine wave at approx. -1 octaves relative to Osc 1 and nudge the Osc Balance just a bit so Osc 2 only comes out a little bit. Filter Envelope Amt and Resonance can add or take away from clicking and of course Cutoff is important. You only need one of the filters for this but of course you can experiment. In the EQ section, crank up the low end EQ volume a good way and set the Hz to between 50-100... tell me if that helps 
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That EQ especially makes it much better now, but it tends to sound a bit muddier and takes some snap out of the bass.
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supergroover
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Posted : Nov 24, 2009 11:06
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I am having trouble loading other external patches into the virus TI. Supposedly you should be able to load the .mid's. but I cant really choose them when I want to load them. Any idea how to go about it? The manual also doesnt really give me any info on this =S |
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xoC
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Posted : Nov 25, 2009 12:38
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On 2009-11-24 02:44, Djones wrote:
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On 2009-11-09 22:13, Djones wrote:
I'm having some difficulties with getting the amp envelope settings right for faster basslines.
What I'm trying to achieve is to make a real short punchy sawtooth bassline, but it's got to have this lowend body to it.
The only way to get to this more deeper lowend sound of the saw tooth waveform is to lengthen the decay, but then it's not snappy anymore.
If I keep it short, it does sound snappy and punchy, but not deep anymore, but mostly clicky.
I have tried every oscillator phase setting and filter envelope modulation, but I just can't get it right.
Actually I also wonder if the envelopes are fast enough.
What I noticed though, is when I played around with the discovery synth, is that even at very short decay settings, the saw waveform has travelled long enough to get to the full bodied waveform sound.
So I guess these envelopes are just much faster?
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have you tried convexe/concave filter envelope (by self modulating the env : filter env to filter decay, negative amount give very slappy convexe env) ?
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How is this set up in the mod matrix?
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Source : Filter Env
Destination : Filter Decay
then you need to understand how it works :
set the filter env to 0 attack, 0 sustain and some decay. So over the time, the value of the modulation given by the enveloppe is decreasing to 0.
So if you give a positive amount, the more the decay drops, the more the decay time is shortened, so it becomes concave.
if you give a negative amount, when the decay drops, the decay time becomes longer, and so, it becomes convexe.
So 2 tips : with high modulation amount, you need decay at some extreme settings (ie decay to 0, big negative amount) |
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Djones
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Posted : Nov 29, 2009 21:10
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On 2009-11-25 12:38, xoC wrote:
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On 2009-11-24 02:44, Djones wrote:
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On 2009-11-10 10:06, xoC wrote:
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On 2009-11-09 22:13, Djones wrote:
I'm having some difficulties with getting the amp envelope settings right for faster basslines.
What I'm trying to achieve is to make a real short punchy sawtooth bassline, but it's got to have this lowend body to it.
The only way to get to this more deeper lowend sound of the saw tooth waveform is to lengthen the decay, but then it's not snappy anymore.
If I keep it short, it does sound snappy and punchy, but not deep anymore, but mostly clicky.
I have tried every oscillator phase setting and filter envelope modulation, but I just can't get it right.
Actually I also wonder if the envelopes are fast enough.
What I noticed though, is when I played around with the discovery synth, is that even at very short decay settings, the saw waveform has travelled long enough to get to the full bodied waveform sound.
So I guess these envelopes are just much faster?
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have you tried convexe/concave filter envelope (by self modulating the env : filter env to filter decay, negative amount give very slappy convexe env) ?
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How is this set up in the mod matrix?
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Source : Filter Env
Destination : Filter Decay
then you need to understand how it works :
set the filter env to 0 attack, 0 sustain and some decay. So over the time, the value of the modulation given by the enveloppe is decreasing to 0.
So if you give a positive amount, the more the decay drops, the more the decay time is shortened, so it becomes concave.
if you give a negative amount, when the decay drops, the decay time becomes longer, and so, it becomes convexe.
So 2 tips : with high modulation amount, you need decay at some extreme settings (ie decay to 0, big negative amount)
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This works great!
Thanks a lot.
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Djones
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Posted : Dec 8, 2009 22:34
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I always found it a bit annoying that I just couldn't load Virus Control by itself, but had to load Cubase first, just if I wanted to play around with my Snow.
Well for this someone I found a solution at the Infekted forum.
And that is to download Savihost:
http://www.hermannseib.com/english/savihost.htm
It's like a very small sequencer built especially to load Vst instruments.
Been trying it since yesterday, and it truly is a wonderful little program.
If you would uncheck everything under 'view', you end up with just looking at your Vst plugin, without anything else around.
Making you forget your actually running a sequencer. |
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Axis Mundi
Axis Mundi
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Posted : Dec 10, 2009 03:10
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You can just plug a MIDI cable between the Snow and a controller also.
If you want to control parameters with the controller's knobs, you just have to re-assign the MIDI CC#'s for the knobs however the controller lets you do it.
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Djones
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Posted : Dec 10, 2009 19:35
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On 2009-12-10 03:10, Axis Mundi wrote:
You can just plug a MIDI cable between the Snow and a controller also.
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Of course.
That's how I have set it up.
But I really don't like the workflow of the Snow standalone.
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Djones
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Posted : Dec 31, 2009 15:41
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I need some expert help again
I just got a Nord Rack 2.
It's connected to my Snow which is also my soundinterface.
Midiwise everything works fine in Cubase, but I don't know how to capture it's audio output.
As what my Snow does is only allowing the audio signal to pass thru to my monitors, but nothing goes into Cubase.
So how do I setup everything up in order to record my Nord? |
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x-rayz
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Posted : Jan 8, 2010 19:39
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On 2009-12-31 15:41, Djones wrote:
So how do I setup everything up in order to record my Nord?
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Your routing chain should go like this
Nord audio out to snow audio in,
then through USB u route signal to ASIO input and that finishes in sequencers audio in..
I assume that you are using 3 stereo analog outputs and that your audio isnt sent to sequencer.. So u must switch to 2 outs.. U set that up in common page..
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Djones
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Posted : Jan 17, 2010 21:56
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On 2010-01-08 19:39, x-rayz wrote:
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On 2009-12-31 15:41, Djones wrote:
So how do I setup everything up in order to record my Nord?
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Your routing chain should go like this
Nord audio out to snow audio in,
then through USB u route signal to ASIO input and that finishes in sequencers audio in..
I assume that you are using 3 stereo analog outputs and that your audio isnt sent to sequencer.. So u must switch to 2 outs.. U set that up in common page..
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Yes that's it!
Thanks a lot.
I already bought another sound interface as I believed it wasn't possible to record thru the Snow's analog in (as I read somewhere).
Think I might sell it then |
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gutter
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Posted : Jan 18, 2010 10:07
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Has anyone tried when making a bass sound, instead of using the 1st and 2nd oscillator to use OSC 2 with saw and OSC 3 as a slave with oscillator balance turned full right ?
It really enhances the saw sound alot , much more than having the two oscillators in saw with balance to the middle, i was very surprised
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Braindrop
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Posted : Jan 18, 2010 23:01
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On 2009-11-24 11:06, supergroover wrote:
I am having trouble loading other external patches into the virus TI. Supposedly you should be able to load the .mid's. but I cant really choose them when I want to load them. Any idea how to go about it? The manual also doesnt really give me any info on this =S
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Well you cant actually use it from any folder. So you have to load the patches in the Access Folder. Mine for example is stored in My Documents.. so it looks like this for examples :
C://my documents/Access Virus Ti/Patches
Put the *mid files in them... Go to the virus control and click load on the Channel...and you'll have it there
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Axis Mundi
Axis Mundi
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Posted : Jan 21, 2010 09:15
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For anyone using Ableton Live/Max For Live, I'm building a Max plugin custom designed for Virus users (optimized for the Snow) that will allow you to control all MIDI channels on the Virus, as well as generate notes, scales, loops and riffs from one audio channel - the one that hosts the plugin.
It will be possible to route both the MIDI and the audio generated into a separate armed MIDI or audio track for the purposes of capturing and recycling loops.
This plugin will be optimized for live use using the TI Snow (but will be perfectly compatible with any Virus TI and probably almost all other VSTi's also) and the APC40 (only for the purposes of streamlined control and routing).
Anyone have any feature requests?
This will free up a number of extra MIDI channels in Ableton, streamline parameter control in live settings.
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