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Axis Mundi
Axis Mundi
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Posted : Jul 16, 2009 23:49:19
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Different from the "other" Virus TI thread, this is the place to share all your sound synthesis tips and tricks you use with your peers and colleagues.
Here are a few of mine:
For Bass:
In the MATRIX section, assign the Amp Envelope to modify the Amp Envelope Decay. This will help you shore up your bassline and get it just a little bit tighter. (Great for fast music).
For Arpeggios:
Assign a S&H LFO to the Arp Pattern in the MATRIX. This "randomizes" your Arpeggio so you can render a long piece of your sound, then you can cut and paste what you like and delete what you don't like to make your own unique arpeggio patterns.
Assign a S&H LFO to the Arp Note Length to give your arpeggio a bit more rhythm.
For Delay:
To create some cool effects, use a Free Tape Delay and assign an LFO to the Delay Feedback and a separate LFO to the Delay Time. For long sounds like pads, use an envelope (amp or filter) in this way. For shorter sounds like leads or arpeggios, use an LFO.
For a Velocity-Sensitive Drum Pad Controller (such as the Akai series):
In the MATRIX section, assign Control 03, 06, 09, 12, etc. to modulate up to three parameters. Route the pads on your controller using the controller's native software to send MIDI along the corresponding CC numbers (03, 06, 09, etc.) The velocity at which you strike the controller pad will determine the intensity of how the parameters you assign in the MATRIX section, depending on how you set the sliders in the Virus Control. This is a great way to produce live-style, irregular, really cool effects. Experiment. |
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xoC
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Posted : Jul 18, 2009 13:30
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great idea :
a nice chaotic unpredictable tip :
use (via cable or routing) the FM with modulation from Input and feed in the analog IN the sound of the analog OUT of the virus.
Like this you have an oscillator who is pitch modulating itself : very chaotic waveforms 
some will produce noise, other some really dark chaotic sound and in some sweets spots, really interessting pure tones !
don't put too much FM amount because it will always sound like noise, but differents versions of noise  Don't forget that the master master will also affect the sound like an FM amount and distortion, filter etc will also affect the modulation.
So what i like to do is : i make the tone i want on the oscillator, with what i like, and then i route the signal via the aux bus and in another part in multimode (i'm on a virus C) i use the virus in Input mode, dynamic, on another analog OUT, and then i can tweak filter, enveloppes, LFO without destroying the particular FM modulation i get by "feedback FM".
Last tip for it, try with different lenght of cables, as longer it is, the more it will delay the signal, and change the FM modulation 
try it also with ringmodulation on external source 
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pavaka
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Posted : Jul 26, 2009 16:26
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Suloo
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Posted : Jul 29, 2009 00:26
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could anyone explain how to use the atomizer in cubase 4/5 ..got an rme fireface 400..
but just got wierd results..not the thing i expected..
thanks..
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Jeto
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Posted : Aug 26, 2009 21:04
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In the New OS it has a feature called "Section Locking". It's quite useful when you want to keep certain characteristics of the sound and change others.
For example you are able to lock the oscillators and then browse through presets.
More information on this can be found on the access website.
https://www.djjeto.com |
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Djones
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Posted : Oct 6, 2009 20:14
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Not much of a 'trick', but I really like to use one of the lfo's to trigger the main volume with a square wave at 1/4, to get that gated pad effect.
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gutter
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Posted : Oct 7, 2009 11:58
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On 2009-07-16 23:49:19, Axis Mundi wrote:
In the MATRIX section, assign the Amp Envelope to modify the Amp Envelope Decay. This will help you shore up your bassline and get it just a little bit tighter. (Great for fast music).
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i thought it was the filter env to the filter envelope decay with minus values ie -10 at the amount in the matrix
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Axis Mundi
Axis Mundi
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Posted : Oct 27, 2009 00:30
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On 2009-10-07 11:58, gutter wrote:
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On 2009-07-16 23:49:19, Axis Mundi wrote:
In the MATRIX section, assign the Amp Envelope to modify the Amp Envelope Decay. This will help you shore up your bassline and get it just a little bit tighter. (Great for fast music).
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i thought it was the filter env to the filter envelope decay with minus values ie -10 at the amount in the matrix
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If you do it to the amp envelope instead, it will bring the volume down of the whole patch, filter and all. Since the envelopes are linked to the tempo of the track, the decrease will scale so your bass notes will be the same relative to the tempo of the track.
If you set the envelope releases to the same value of the decays, the note played will be the same length if you hold down the note a long time or if you let go of the note early. This is how you get "string pluck" sounds (like playing a contra bass with your fingers).
New tip for arpeggios (untested):
I just realized that one easy way to achieve what you wanted to with the Virus TI is to set up your custom arpeggio the way you want it in the arp editor, then in the patch matrix, route the velocity to the oscillator pitch and put it at +63. Then set the velocity of each arpeggio step to 63 and adjust the velocity of each of the steps in the arpeggio to suit. Every +1/-1 velocity points you assign will increase the pitch of the oscillator by +1/-1 semitones. This will give you arpeggios with predictable upwards- or downwards-scaling notes.
Note: You may have to adjust the transpose of the patch by a few octaves accordingly.
Note: The arpeggios you make this way are saved per patch, but there is an easy workaround to apply arpeggios to other patches. Simply lock all the functions in the arpeggio section of the VC and select other patches from the patch library. All the presets will switch to the new patch but the arpeggio pattern will remain the same.
I haven't actually tried this yet, but I'm sure it would be a cool effect.
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Djones
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Posted : Oct 27, 2009 01:31
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On 2009-10-27 00:30, Axis Mundi wrote:
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On 2009-10-07 11:58, gutter wrote:
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On 2009-07-16 23:49:19, Axis Mundi wrote:
In the MATRIX section, assign the Amp Envelope to modify the Amp Envelope Decay. This will help you shore up your bassline and get it just a little bit tighter. (Great for fast music).
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i thought it was the filter env to the filter envelope decay with minus values ie -10 at the amount in the matrix
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New tip for arpeggios (untested):
I just realized that one easy way to achieve what you wanted to with the Virus TI is to set up your custom arpeggio the way you want it in the arp editor, then in the patch matrix, route the velocity to the oscillator pitch and put it at +63. Then set the velocity of each arpeggio step to 63 and adjust the velocity of each of the steps in the arpeggio to suit. Every +1/-1 velocity points you assign will increase the pitch of the oscillator by +1/-1 semitones. This will give you arpeggios with predictable upwards- or downwards-scaling notes.
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Good thinking:-)
Thanks!
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Djones
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Posted : Oct 27, 2009 02:50
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I'm having some great fun playing with the arp as described above.
Lots and lots of flexibilty.
Huge tip really!
You could modulate anything by velocity and then by the arp
Then apply an Lfo to modulate the modulation amount of that slot to get even more movement.
And that locking tip worked great.
Altough you would have to lock the modulation section as well.
Hope, soon we will be able to save arp patterns.
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Axis Mundi
Axis Mundi
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Posted : Oct 27, 2009 11:45
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Soon I will be releasing a bank of 128 psy-trance RAM patches optimized for the Virus TI Snow, TIOS 3.1.00.
Not sure if they will work on other TI's or not.
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Djones
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Posted : Nov 9, 2009 22:13
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I'm having some difficulties with getting the amp envelope settings right for faster basslines.
What I'm trying to achieve is to make a real short punchy sawtooth bassline, but it's got to have this lowend body to it.
The only way to get to this more deeper lowend sound of the saw tooth waveform is to lengthen the decay, but then it's not snappy anymore.
If I keep it short, it does sound snappy and punchy, but not deep anymore, but mostly clicky.
I have tried every oscillator phase setting and filter envelope modulation, but I just can't get it right.
Actually I also wonder if the envelopes are fast enough.
What I noticed though, is when I played around with the discovery synth, is that even at very short decay settings, the saw waveform has travelled long enough to get to the full bodied waveform sound.
So I guess these envelopes are just much faster?
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Axis Mundi
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Posted : Nov 10, 2009 02:39
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I usually use a basic saw wave on Oscillator 1. On Oscillator 2 I usually use either a square or sine wave at approx. -1 octaves relative to Osc 1 and nudge the Osc Balance just a bit so Osc 2 only comes out a little bit. Filter Envelope Amt and Resonance can add or take away from clicking and of course Cutoff is important. You only need one of the filters for this but of course you can experiment. In the EQ section, crank up the low end EQ volume a good way and set the Hz to between 50-100... tell me if that helps
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xoC
Cubic Spline
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Posted : Nov 10, 2009 10:06
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On 2009-11-09 22:13, Djones wrote:
I'm having some difficulties with getting the amp envelope settings right for faster basslines.
What I'm trying to achieve is to make a real short punchy sawtooth bassline, but it's got to have this lowend body to it.
The only way to get to this more deeper lowend sound of the saw tooth waveform is to lengthen the decay, but then it's not snappy anymore.
If I keep it short, it does sound snappy and punchy, but not deep anymore, but mostly clicky.
I have tried every oscillator phase setting and filter envelope modulation, but I just can't get it right.
Actually I also wonder if the envelopes are fast enough.
What I noticed though, is when I played around with the discovery synth, is that even at very short decay settings, the saw waveform has travelled long enough to get to the full bodied waveform sound.
So I guess these envelopes are just much faster?
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have you tried convexe/concave filter envelope (by self modulating the env : filter env to filter decay, negative amount give very slappy convexe env) ?
or you just put less env mod, longer decay to have the boy of the bassline only, and then by using a LFO with saw waveform in enveloppe mod and very short, just add the clicky/slappy attack. |
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Djones
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Posted : Nov 24, 2009 02:44
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On 2009-11-10 10:06, xoC wrote:
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On 2009-11-09 22:13, Djones wrote:
I'm having some difficulties with getting the amp envelope settings right for faster basslines.
What I'm trying to achieve is to make a real short punchy sawtooth bassline, but it's got to have this lowend body to it.
The only way to get to this more deeper lowend sound of the saw tooth waveform is to lengthen the decay, but then it's not snappy anymore.
If I keep it short, it does sound snappy and punchy, but not deep anymore, but mostly clicky.
I have tried every oscillator phase setting and filter envelope modulation, but I just can't get it right.
Actually I also wonder if the envelopes are fast enough.
What I noticed though, is when I played around with the discovery synth, is that even at very short decay settings, the saw waveform has travelled long enough to get to the full bodied waveform sound.
So I guess these envelopes are just much faster?
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have you tried convexe/concave filter envelope (by self modulating the env : filter env to filter decay, negative amount give very slappy convexe env) ?
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How is this set up in the mod matrix? |
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