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Virus TI myth?

Ascension
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Posted : Aug 2, 2010 17:02
How much does it matter to have a clean waveform when most people seem to be putting a distortion on it?           http://soundcloud.com/ascensionsound
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PoM
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Posted : Aug 2, 2010 17:03
it really matter cause the sound is more pure , then it depends if the distortion is analog or not but the purest source is always better usually ,it give the choice , its not that hard to make a clean sound dirty but the other way is not easy
Ascension
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Posted : Aug 2, 2010 17:10
Pure? Distortion basically adds small spikes along the waveform's shape, so I don't see why a pure input would be of major importance since the output is kind of "unpure". Is there such a thing as a pure/clean white noise or something like that?          http://soundcloud.com/ascensionsound
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PoM
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Posted : Aug 2, 2010 17:14
i don t know how to say ,it s something with how it sound,for example in 2 distorted sound one could need lot of notchs cause of some bad resonant peaks and the other not, cause it s more pure sounding , so if you take bad oscillators plus bad digital distortion you will get lot of crap , a distorted sound can still sound very pure when it s free of aliasing and digital artifacts .
but it s not much a problem, we don t even need to take care about all that cause everyhting sound digital
Get-a-fix
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Posted : Aug 2, 2010 17:16
I've had one for a couple of years now. I won't say that the virus is unique, i'm sure many vsti's can replicate it's sounds.

However what does make it unique is how easy it is to use & how easily it integrates with your sequencer. All the knobs are right there, it gives you 16 sounds with their own effects, you don't have to mess around with midi or other cables etc. It has several other cool features plus you can use it as your midi-controller.

So i wouldn't part with mine just because i doubt that there's another VA-synth out there that is as easy to use as the TI.
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orgytime
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Posted : Aug 2, 2010 17:21
hehe, i knew you cant describe "warmth".
ill better get a new pair of monitors and enjoy my 300€ midicontroller


cheers           www.soundcloud.com/orgytime
PoM
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Posted : Aug 2, 2010 17:29
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On 2010-08-02 17:21, orgytime wrote:
hehe, i knew you cant describe "warmth".
ill better get a new pair of monitors and enjoy my 300€ midicontroller


cheers




warmth dont come from synths to me, it comes from analog gears that enahnce the sound with saturation, driving a good analog desk ,instant warmth for example even if you send a vsti, it s not much about the sound of the synth in my experience even if using a analog one could give better warmth cause the sound is more pure. warmth don t exist in digital or is very hard to get and need lot of skill. analog gears make it super easy (the hard thing is to find the gear that have the warmth you are looking for )
orgytime
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Posted : Aug 2, 2010 18:35
what is "warmth" and what is "colour" in music?

i mean, any frequencie??? any range, any wave?
any?          www.soundcloud.com/orgytime
Ascension
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Posted : Aug 2, 2010 19:03
Well you could say that the highs are colored, referring to them being louder than other frequencies in the mix. I use that phrase when talking about a pair of headphones I own.           http://soundcloud.com/ascensionsound
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Shiranui
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Posted : Aug 2, 2010 20:17
"warmth" = minor soft distortion caused by nonlinearity of circuits (i.e. the "squashed" sine waves I mentioned before). People often describe vinyl and vaccuum tube/valve amplifiers as being "warm" because they both subtly introduce a specific kind of distortion/compression that is very smooth (as opposed to hard-clipping which is very harsh sounding)
Shiranui
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Posted : Aug 2, 2010 20:21
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On 2010-08-02 17:10, Ascension wrote:
Pure? Distortion basically adds small spikes along the waveform's shape

That's not what distortion does at all. Distortion "squishes" the waveform down

distortion = compression with instant attack (so brickwall limiting, clipping, soft-clipping are all distortion)
Ascension
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Posted : Aug 2, 2010 21:05
Interesting. I don't use distortion too often, guess I had it described to me the wrong way.           http://soundcloud.com/ascensionsound
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Maine Coon
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Posted : Aug 2, 2010 22:27
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On 2010-08-02 17:02, Ascension wrote:
How much does it matter to have a clean waveform when most people seem to be putting a distortion on it?





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On 2010-08-02 21:05, Ascension wrote:
Interesting. I don't use distortion too often [...]





Ascension
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Posted : Aug 2, 2010 22:29
^= most people are making dark psy

my friends who do use distort ALL the time, every so often that I make darkpsy I don't use it much anyway- gives my ignorance a good excuse           http://soundcloud.com/ascensionsound
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orgytime
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Posted : Aug 2, 2010 23:57
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On 2010-08-02 22:29, Ascension wrote:
my friends who do use distort ALL the time, every so often that I make darkpsy I don't use it much anyway- gives my ignorance a good excuse



lol please again^^ i dont get it^^           www.soundcloud.com/orgytime
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