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Vermeee
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Posted : Oct 14, 2011 17:43
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On 2011-10-14 12:37, TimeTraveller wrote:
I would love to have all theme sythesizer oscilator waveforms in my collection as samples.Just the oscilators and than all virutal synthesizers should contain an input for feeding their oscilator with digital waveform samples. This should be standart.
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that would be very cool...
coz then for the sake of variety, u would be able to use the filters of all the diferent synths , aswell as envelopes and lfos...
since each synth has a caracter in the modules...
 
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Maine Coon
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Posted : Oct 14, 2011 21:12
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Isn't this what a sampler would do?
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Vermeee
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Posted : Oct 14, 2011 21:17
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yes but u d be stuck ONLY with the modules frmo the sampler...( in the exemple u said the ableton sampler )
which u could say its the "limitation" of a rompler...
what timetraveler said ( at least what i did understood ) s to have the posibility to load all the VCO wave samples in ANY VST synth...
lets say u could load those waves in DISCOPRO or SURGE or CYPHER or ALBINO...
any that u choose...
then u could use diferent filters caracters , envelopes caracters , lfos caracters etc..
but yea its bascily turnin all the synths in sampler as well lol... open source synths..
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Greententacle
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Posted : Oct 15, 2011 01:21
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willsanquil
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Posted : Oct 15, 2011 02:38
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You are ridiculous.
Trilian comes with something like 24 filter types.
It's fantastic software - many pros use it, and for good reason.
I guarantee that every person whining and bitching about the evil spectrasonics romplers has absolutely no clue what the fuck they are talking about.
If you want to make an apple pie from scratch...you must first invent the universe
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TimeTraveller
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Posted : Oct 15, 2011 06:52
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I deleted trilogy (not a legit version) after a year of using it..
I still have some analog waveforms from it but that's all.
..and all the youtube videos about omnisphere are boring to me.
To start a soundsynthesis out of this cute presets is exactly what I don't wanna do.
I haven't seen any real thriling video about omnisphere dedicated for sound designers - more videos for preset consumers..something about synthesis maybe could let tis rompler shine in a different light. I see if there are many filters than its nice and fun, but you can realize (if you want) anything with other tools (inserts) .
More than people who write they don't need it, I see people speaking about omnisphere like it is a super virtual synthesizer revolution - which is definetly not .
I'd be more interested in trillian when it comes to spectastronics. I guess I'll get it at some point. I'm curious to get to know what exactly is it that fantastic about omnisphere? I'm really curious... and to write yay and sweet or ROckx and belive me or I swear lol (which 99% of coments about it are) or sth like this is a bit hmmm lets say not enough.. I'm curiuos to see some spectecular facts about it, or if there is something I don't know about it - without using it.
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jeeboomba
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Posted : Oct 15, 2011 08:36
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On 2011-10-08 18:07, Vermeee wrote:
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On 2010-11-20 23:44, daark wrote:
those heavy samplers just a waste of my disk space better to have a good library and flexible comfy synths.
all those spectratronics and nexus stuff i just don't dig.
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+1²
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is still +1
re-arrange what you thought was real |
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fractal fields
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Posted : Oct 15, 2011 11:24
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On 2011-10-14 14:09, disco hooligans wrote:
Which is what I am saying. Some romplers have great VCO samples. Just delete the patches you don't like (and their respective wavetables) and keep the stuff you like. You can have the ARP 2600 VCO waveforms, without all the mushy pads and general preset shite that comes with some romplers.
Win/win situation if you ask me.
Peace out.
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+1
use what you like, ditch the rest. |
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Nectarios
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Posted : Oct 15, 2011 14:06
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On 2011-10-15 06:52, TimeTraveller wrote:
..and all the youtube videos about omnisphere are boring to me.
To start a soundsynthesis out of this cute presets is exactly what I don't wanna do.
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So you base your views on youtube videos?
That's like me saying "I can't see the point of using a Virus TI cause all people have been doing with it, is using its presets and make cheesy full on with it".
What does that say for you as a producer?...if you think like; other people on the net, use Omnisphere to make boring stuff...so I am not going to use it, cause I'll make boring stuff with it as well.
And seriously, anyone who does not, at least appreciate, the benefits of having some killer wavetables at their disposal, even if it only means that one will make a nice simple resonant HPF saw riff with it, sounds to me more like a pretentious engineering geek, than a musician who uses any kind of source that will yield the best outcome.
Stop listening to the hype about synths. Omnisphere is not a relevalation, its just a really good sounding synth/rompler/whatever.
For example, the Virus has been hailed as the holy grail of synths regarding psy-trance, mostly by people who heard X-artist is using it, or by people who are generally cluless about synths.
Have you ever listened to a Virus with its effects turned off? I did when I first got the Virus B and that was truly, a revelation for me. Did not stop me from appreciating the strong points of it and getting a Polar TI (ok I was able to get one for dirt cheap, but still) and I have found ways of using it to my benefit.
Synths are tools, and although you can never blame the tools, you can always blame the carpenter 
Peace out.
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TimeTraveller
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Posted : Oct 15, 2011 15:27
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No seriously I hardly look any videos, but I looked out for omnisphere for several. I also have absolutely nothing against any synth  I love them all especially when they offer a lot, just find it strange that much hype for that specific synth in combination with comments like .. if you have not tried it than you have no clue of what's really good or cannot speak about it etc - seem pretentious to me.
You always can have a basic opinion , just need to read the technical data or what that device contains and offers.
And it can be a super synth.
Personaly I always liked powerful virtual synthesizers that have not really much MBs in them more interesting than synthesizers/romplers with tons of GBs and of course they still can be great I just don't really like these nexus etc liga.
I have listened and played a lot with virus and I personaly don't really like it , with or without effects.
Although if somenoe give me a virus as a present I would be glad and if I find one affordable Id buy it , I played not often enough maybe. I was not really as trhilled as I expected before. (Virus TI I haven't played with)
And sure it's all in the hands and mind of a producer/engineer what one makes out of what he has. I never blame any device but don't need them all, a few that offers a lot are better to me than hundreds almost same imo.
And I agree with your whole comment.
Peace
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Greententacle
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Posted : Oct 15, 2011 15:52
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On 2011-10-15 02:38, willsanquil wrote:
You are ridiculous.
Trilian comes with something like 24 filter types.
It's fantastic software - many pros use it, and for good reason.
I guarantee that every person whining and bitching about the evil spectrasonics romplers has absolutely no clue what the fuck they are talking about.
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hihi, i guess you never touched an analog filter
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Nectarios
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Posted : Oct 15, 2011 16:00
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On 2011-10-15 15:27, TimeTraveller wrote:
You always can have a basic opinion , just need to read the technical data or what that device contains and offers.
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Another thing about synths, specs give you an idea of the available range of sounds, yet they never say anything about the actual sound.
And the actual sound is what is really important. Identify they strong points of each one of them and use them, without thinking twice if its a rompler, a sampler, or an analog modular.
Peace out.
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faxinadu
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Posted : Oct 16, 2011 06:01
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just saying i don't see the point in yet another gazzilion sounds on my hd.
and yes, i would prefer a triton, just cause, i enjoy the hardware vibes and it gets my juices flowing. doesn't mean i think the triton is a good synth or worth the money. i also had a bunch of hardware romplers, from emu's proteus1 to the later models like planet phatt and carnaval. nice for some fun
in the same way that anything that makes sounds is nice, but for me personally doesn't turn me on sorry.
i too had trilogy, hell it was even a legal copy. waste of space used it one time and deleted it.
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willsanquil
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Posted : Oct 16, 2011 11:13
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On 2011-10-15 06:52, TimeTraveller wrote:
I haven't seen any real thriling video about omnisphere dedicated for sound designers - more videos for preset consumers..something about synthesis maybe could let tis rompler shine in a different light. I see if there are many filters than its nice and fun, but you can realize (if you want) anything with other tools (inserts) .
More than people who write they don't need it, I see people speaking about omnisphere like it is a super virtual synthesizer revolution - which is definetly not .
I'd be more interested in trillian when it comes to spectastronics. I guess I'll get it at some point. I'm curious to get to know what exactly is it that fantastic about omnisphere? I'm really curious... and to write yay and sweet or ROckx and belive me or I swear lol (which 99% of coments about it are) or sth like this is a bit hmmm lets say not enough.. I'm curiuos to see some spectecular facts about it, or if there is something I don't know about it - without using it.
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Fuck random youtube videos. If you are interested in why Omnisphere is so omgawesome, all you need do is look at the official spectrasonics videos.
http://www.spectrasonics.net/video/videos-tutorials-omnisphere.php
Are there presets in Omnisphere? Yes. Lots.
However, I could never ever use a preset and still get lost in the possibilities of this synth.
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On 2011-10-15 15:52, Greententacle wrote:
hihi, i guess you never touched an analog filter
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Nope, never touched an analog filter. However, I have copious amounts of experience with much of what the digital world has to offer in terms of filters and the Omnisphere filters sound great. Not as great as U-he's modeling, but still pretty damn awesome.
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On 2011-10-16 06:01, faxinadu wrote:
just saying i don't see the point in yet another gazzilion sounds on my hd.
and yes, i would prefer a triton, just cause, i enjoy the hardware vibes and it gets my juices flowing. doesn't mean i think the triton is a good synth or worth the money. i also had a bunch of hardware romplers, from emu's proteus1 to the later models like planet phatt and carnaval. nice for some fun
in the same way that anything that makes sounds is nice, but for me personally doesn't turn me on sorry.
i too had trilogy, hell it was even a legal copy. waste of space used it one time and deleted it.
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You spent hundreds of dollars (or borrowed a friend's copy to install it - which isn't legal) on a synth, used it once - then deleted it?
There are so many things wrong with that. If you only used it once there is no way you grasped what it can actually do...
There's no way you can make a legit evaluation of ANY synth or ANY software after only using it one time!
So much hating on Spectrasonics products...just seems like everyone who is complaining in this thread downloaded it, used it once or twice and didn't understand it and then said fuck it, its just a bunch of presets.
It's one thing to say 'hey, I don't like it - not for me' and acknowledge its power - it's another thing to slam it for no reason or without evidence.
You are all silly.
I mean, cmon - check out that groove envelopes video
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TimeTraveller
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Posted : Oct 16, 2011 12:00
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lots of alcohol inside me but I'll watch that nice side soon after wake up.Looks good.Thnaks.
I enjoyed also the last faxinandu posting haha somehow amusing.
Peace to you all.
Cheers
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