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Virtual Instrument of The Year !
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Adharaguy
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Posted : Oct 11, 2011 03:05
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Great great sound... Its really a "Goliath" vst  .
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faxinadu
Faxi Nadu / Elmooht
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Posted : Oct 11, 2011 04:33
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didn't hear yet any vst or software modular (hell, not even talking about a complete system, a filter, an osc!) that sounds as good raw as the stuff on the creamware modular + flexor.
not saying i don't <3 plugins, and they offer much more versitility than hw, but sound still is not IT!
cool things, like i donno, glitch stuff, reaktor thingies is all awsome on a pc, but a simple saw osc that sounds as good as hw (without things that make it pretty like fx and massive unisons) i haven't heard yet.
i would take a cool digital synth like a korg triton or something over any rompler any day.
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SuperSK
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Posted : Oct 13, 2011 09:03
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we can buy it together and share? what do you think? |
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Nectarios
Martian Arts
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Posted : Oct 13, 2011 10:37
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On 2011-10-11 04:33, faxinadu wrote:
i would take a cool digital synth like a korg triton or something over any rompler any day.
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I've had a mate's Triton for a year. If you are making psy-trance its one of the worst buys you could ever make.
I've had Trillian for two years. But its got samples of some really nice oscillators, you subsequently put through its filters and modulate with ADSRs and LFO and quite a few parameters more that are available. Its not an analog modular, but you can get very creative.
Although having a real SH-101 I can defintely say that the SH-101 patches on Trillian do not sound as solid as the SH-101 with no modulation and filter all the way open...there are definitely some "funny" sounding notes so one has to choose which Trillian patch to use according to the scale one will use.
Are you experienced with the Triton? Its a nightmare to program... and Trillian, or Omnisphere? They have great (in many cases VCO) oscillator samples and are a lot easier to program. I am not so sure you had a good go at them, cause otherwise you would not say something like that. Seriously Trillian pisses over Triton for bass and leads regarding psy-trance.
Peace out.
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PoM
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Posted : Oct 13, 2011 13:56
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i hate romplers cause lot of samples sound weird depending the notes used (at least in spectrasonics stuff it often don t react like a oscillator ,some note just dont sound the same you wonder why )
but if i could make my proper collection of multisampled analog and digital synths i would use them for sure |
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TimeTraveller
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Posted : Oct 13, 2011 17:11
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I also never used romplers , does not make any fun to me and too much spacewaste. I even don't like presets but learn more and more to like them or atleast to know them.Each to his own habbits and likings , if it sounds good it's always cool.
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PoM
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Posted : Oct 13, 2011 17:19
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i rarely use presets too but i have a very good alternative. i find creating synth patchs is part of the inspiration of the tune, it s art too and it s often faster than finding the right preset.
what i do is save lot of innit patch, kick innit, bassline innit, all sort of leads,pads ... innit , then i just have to tweak them according to the mood i am, it s just some templates where the synth is setup with type/number of oscs,filters hp/bp,lp...some modulation set so i just have have to tweak a little.
a modular like zebra is really good for this but it work with any synths |
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faxinadu
Faxi Nadu / Elmooht
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Posted : Oct 13, 2011 17:21
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TimeTraveller
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Posted : Oct 13, 2011 17:25
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cool idea with the diverse innit patches inspiring.. I have some onw presets for glide risers to start from and a basis for pad and neutralize the init patches often to total init patches, like es2 the normal init patch sucks there still are some knobs up and matrix got modulation that's nice to make a real innit default patch.
I start to collect presets make banks though etc.
I'd use other presets for as realistic as possible intruments like doublebass or a good accoustic guitar and such tasks, and would use it if there would not be a real human instrumentalist or any other better alternative.
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Vermeee
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Posted : Oct 13, 2011 17:42
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On 2011-10-13 17:19, PoM wrote:
i find creating synth patchs is part of the inspiration of the tune.
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i like this way too..
but nowadays i just need to be more careful
coz i noticed sometimes... i d have a synth in the first session loops of the track that would be somewhat kind of almost identical to a synth in the second sessions of the loops
also after some tracks finished i felt i started to creatin my own identity on the synths coz basicly when i start a new track i ll head from a initi patch to almost identical sounds from other tracks but improved in the sound design tecnic...
it feels good 
at some project i tried to save some presets after noticed such thing ^^ but it wasnt the same thing coz it would lack the sound design trainin that i d be doin when startin from the initi patch everytime...
and it can sound slow..but u start to get things faster and faster....
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Nectarios
Martian Arts
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Posted : Oct 14, 2011 11:03
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On 2011-10-13 17:21, faxinadu wrote:
yes i had borth a trinity and a triton.
not saying anything about loving them, just saying ney to romplers
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So someone gives you the ability to use the saw VCO output of a Jupiter 8 and put it through any filter you life, modulate that filter as you like and in turn put it through any kind of modulation/delay effect you like.
you would say no to that? and if you did, why would you? Do you build your own VCOs? or do you draw in waveforms by hand in your digital synths?
Peace out.
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TimeTraveller
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Posted : Oct 14, 2011 12:37
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I would love to have all theme sythesizer oscilator waveforms in my collection as samples.Just the oscilators and than all virutal synthesizers should contain an input for feeding their oscilator with digital waveform samples. This should be standart.
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Nectarios
Martian Arts
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Posted : Oct 14, 2011 12:55
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On 2011-10-14 12:37, TimeTraveller wrote:
I would love to have all theme sythesizer oscilator waveforms in my collection as samples.Just the oscilators and than all virutal synthesizers should contain an input for feeding their oscilator with digital waveform samples. This should be standart.
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So some romplers are not waste of space after all
Peace out.
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TimeTraveller
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Posted : Oct 14, 2011 12:59
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Nectarios
Martian Arts
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Posted : Oct 14, 2011 14:09
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Which is what I am saying. Some romplers have great VCO samples. Just delete the patches you don't like (and their respective wavetables) and keep the stuff you like. You can have the ARP 2600 VCO waveforms, without all the mushy pads and general preset shite that comes with some romplers.
Win/win situation if you ask me.
Peace out.
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