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Posted : Feb 16, 2006 12:53
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Generic Psychedelic Tones
Well, what is this? Is it a term that my mind invented, or might we find some reality in my words? Let’s take a look.
First off, the meaning of the three individual words.
1. Generic = Relating to or characteristic of a whole group or class.
2. Psychedelic = 1. relating to hallucinogenic drugs: relating to, caused by, or describing drugs that generate hallucinations, atypical psychic states, or states that resemble psychiatric disorders 2. wildly distorted: weird, distorted, wildly colourful, or otherwise resembling images or sounds experienced by somebody under the influence of a psychedelic drug.
3. Tones = 1. distinctive kind of sound: a sound with a distinctive quality 2. way of speaking: the way somebody says something as an indicator of what that person is feeling or thinking 3. general quality: the general quality or character of something as an indicator of the attitude or view of the person who produced it 4. machine sound: a sound, especially one produced by a machine
Combine all of these words and you will get the effect of what A person whom likes to trip urges for. Music with generic psychedelic tones.
Some loose and easy examples must be: Hallucinogen, Cypher, Yamabikaya, Odd Harmonic. Many others as well. But you get the picture, right? Some acts make more generic-psytones then others. I would like to see a new act dedicating to make music for trips, and not only the dancefloor.
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So let me ask you, would you like to see the same? I mean more "psychedelic" music? Or do you prefer the more dance floor related music that is mainly produced these days? Of course, for most people, the best solution is to combine the psy with the dance floor. But this (seems to me) must be the most difficult task.
pis & løv,
psytones
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Nathan
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Posted : Feb 16, 2006 13:08
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On 2006-02-16 12:53, Kire-naj wrote:
2.Psychedelic = 1. relating to hallucinogenic drugs: relating to, caused by, or describing drugs that generate hallucinations, atypical psychic states, or states that resemble psychiatric disorders 2. wildly distorted: weird, distorted, wildly colourful, or otherwise resembling images or sounds experienced by somebody under the influence of a psychedelic drug.
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Why always psychedelic mode must be a drug experience?
Am I the only one on this forum that can feel very psy on a party/home listening without drugs?
So you want music to be more psychedelic?
just w8 and see the evolution… who knows
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Posted : Feb 16, 2006 13:17
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On 2006-02-16 13:08, Nathan wrote:
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On 2006-02-16 12:53, Kire-naj wrote:
2.Psychedelic = 1. relating to hallucinogenic drugs: relating to, caused by, or describing drugs that generate hallucinations, atypical psychic states, or states that resemble psychiatric disorders 2. wildly distorted: weird, distorted, wildly colourful, or otherwise resembling images or sounds experienced by somebody under the influence of a psychedelic drug.
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Why always psychedelic mode must be a drug experience?
Am I the only one on this forum thay can fell very psy on a party/home listening without drugs?
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Because "Psychedelic" is a word directly connected to a "drug" and it's effect. It was invented because of a "drug". Ergo, a psychedelic substance like LSD, Aya, Mushroom ect. It's a fact, and take a look in the dictionary or just go to http://www.onelook.com if you, or anyone else don’t believe me. Remember kids. Psychedelic music is also because of a "drug".
Of course, no one is telling you to go on a trip each time you listen to your beloved tracks. Just don’t ignore or deny the facts of life.
The (r)evolution has been here already. As all cicles, it will return.
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Yellow Warrior
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Posted : Feb 16, 2006 13:26
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Drugs is just the lazy man's way to feel psychedelia! 
Thats just my opinion.
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Posted : Feb 16, 2006 13:33
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On 2006-02-16 13:26, Bharath wrote:
Drugs is just the lazy man's way to feel psychedelia!
Thats just my opinion.
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haha. I can tell you one thing. A person is not lazy if he/she chooses to go under a psychedelic state of mind. It's acctually quite demanding. Of you and your brain. Lazy...
Btw. Please eleberate your opinion. I dont know what your talking about. .. Do you?
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Yellow Warrior
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Posted : Feb 16, 2006 13:46
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On 2006-02-16 13:33, Kire-naj wrote:
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On 2006-02-16 13:26, Bharath wrote:
Drugs is just the lazy man's way to feel psychedelia!
Thats just my opinion.
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A person is not lazy if he/she chooses to go under a psychedelic state of mind. It's acctually quite demanding. Of you and your brain. Lazy...
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Are you saying experiencing that state of mind is demanding? yes it is, its coz of all the chemicals running around in your head and everywhere.
All i am saying is to get to that demanding state of mind, drugs is the wrong answer, thats all. Again, my opinion. We just choose the easy way out to get to that state, by using drugs.
This topic already looks like its running into a druggie discussion. 
if you still think i'm talking all bollocks then fine, maybe i will PM you in detail to try to make more sense. Rather than feeling that you're about to have the rug pulled from under you, let me teach you how to dance on a flying carpet |
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Nathan
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Posted : Feb 16, 2006 13:47
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Trance is related to drugs- 4 sure! I agree.
But they are just an artificial imagination.
I rather use my natural one  . its more crazy than any drug on the planet.
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KakoOlalaJwal
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Posted : Feb 16, 2006 13:52
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On 2006-02-16 13:46, Bharath wrote:
This topic already looks like its running into a druggie discussion. |
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On 2006-02-16 13:46, Bharath wrote:
Kire-naj, if you want to talk about this further, please PM.
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Nice one, thanks..
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Posted : Feb 16, 2006 14:15
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I think the total meaning of Psychedelia was not explored in all it's glory!
Some more dictionary references may be used!
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Acidhive
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Posted : Feb 16, 2006 14:44
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I know what kind of music you mean Kire-naj. Things like old Tim Schuldt tracks fit the bill for example. On the drug question I relate to Nathan and especially Bharath. Furthermore I get annoyed by you spreading drugs propaganda again. Let's just say you're lucky I'm not a moderator or your ass would've been banned some time ago. This forum is NOT for drug promotion. And please be so considerate to at least recognize there are people out there that enjoy this music without drugs.
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Anak
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Posted : Feb 16, 2006 14:55
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i'm not exactly sure if i got that one properly kire-naj but i'll give my cents anyway.
for me it can be narrowed down to two types: music for mind and music for body. needless to say that i can dance to mindmusic as well, but vice versa its more difficult. but that's very subjective.
i love psychedelic music, if i had to choose between having this music in my room or in parties ONLY i would definetely prefer the first option, as parties are not that important for me.
so, YES to more deeply emotional, sophisticated psychedelic trance, or generic psychedelic tones if you want!
to the psychedelic debate (i never get involved into these, but lets make an exception): surely the term psychedelic (and therefore psychedelic trance) has a lot to do with drugs but we must not forgot that several "topics" from "psychedelic scene" get mentioned by other "groups" of people also, that do not relate themselves directly to psychedelic drugs, i.e. (neo-)esoteric groups exploring astral journeys, depth of the mind etc., even more efficiently than people using drugs for experiencing these. Anakoluth A Pebble in Your Eardrum's Shoe since 2001!
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Posted : Feb 16, 2006 15:11
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... and still going with the train with headphones for a few hours is far more psychedelic and "mind expanding" than the vast majority of all parties, drugexperiences and all that stuff I've been through - combined... Trip here, trip there, drug here, drug there... I'm really growing tired of all this 'music+psychedelic drugs' propaganda.. I've been there, I don't regret it, I didn't die but gees I'm getting bloody tired on all these connections made between these and statements that implicity tells that it should be some what "compulsory" to connect these...
Sorry, I just don't buy it... 
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Posted : Feb 16, 2006 15:56
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On 2006-02-16 13:46, Bharath wrote:
Are you saying experiencing that state of mind is demanding? yes it is, its coz of all the chemicals running around in your head and everywhere.
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… ? I’m talking about psychedelic substances like mushrooms which is not ruining your body like chemical drugs aka speed , x and other fun substances. Hey, alcohol is very damaging. Psychedelics doesn’t fry your brain, it expands the mind. Some people cant always handle their face without a mask, and that makes the whole experience kind of scary and “damaging” to some people. If you have a big inner problem with self confidence or what ever psychological problems you have in your head. This might, and will come up to the surface, either you like it or not. It’s one of the “psy’s” fun facts.
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All i am saying is to get to that demanding state of mind, drugs is the wrong answer, thats all. Again, my opinion. We just choose the easy way out to get to that state, by using drugs. |
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If you can show me a way of getting into a real LSD psychedelic state of mind, vision sound experience ect without taking psychedelic substances, then please elaborate. Because if you know how to do that on your own, you need to check in to hospital + you’re my biggest hero, lol
I still don’t think you know what I am talking about, you just assume you know.
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Yes, but that was not my initial intention. Just a bonus that you anti drug people manages to extract out of the topic. I merely quoted the dictionary of what the word “psychedelic” means. Nothing wrong about that, until some people make it wrong and into a tabu.
In very short words, mindgames knows what I’m talking about here:
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Same goes for Anak. Whom I always seem to agree with =)
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On 2006-02-16 15:11, scobbah wrote:
... and still going with the train with headphones for a few hours is far more psychedelic and "mind expanding" than the vast majority of all parties,
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Amen, and since you already know and have experienced the other side of reality you know what it’s about and what your missing while not infected by a psychedelic substance. Non is arguing on you not being right here, but what I do find fascinating, is that you:
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Sorry, I just don't buy it...
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Seemingly have been through some rocky paths on your experiences. But who hasn’t? You need to experience both sides to appreciate the good side even more. So you’ve done your share of drugs for x years, so your tired about the fuzz and “propaganda”. Well, I’m tired of the opposite. I’m tired of people closing their eyes denying the reality in front of them just because you (as in them) don’t like what they might see when they open their eyes. I’m tired of people who never even had an experience, but still think they know 110% what a psychedelic experience or anything related is. You can masturbate and glance at porn movies all day, but until you actually have intercourse, you will not know what sex is really about. Oh sure, you can imagine, but can you know? Psy is even harder to guess the feeling of. It’s unreal and not a part of our dimension. (Strong words, but please take my points behind the bull) .. I’m sure you know what your reflecting over S-man. No doubts. And I agree, I’m kind of tired of drugs my self after six hard years. I want to relax as well, and not having people throw their opinions at me, because I feel that I know. I’ve been there, lived there, and cried there and smiled/laughed a lot there.
What do you not buy btw? That the word psychedelic is “drug” related, or that you have to have a psychedelic experience to really understand what I mean about “Generic Psychedelic Tones”? .. As said, Hallucinogen used a lot of Generic Psytones in his music. You don’t buy his music?
But enough about drugs. I want some producers to make albums dedicated to “the psychedelic” experience. Pure psychedelic. Not meditation and plur. But pure hard psychedelic angles and directions. – Wonder if Simon, in 2006 will release a third psychedelic album in the true spirit of the last two albums
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Posted : Feb 16, 2006 16:28
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On 2006-02-16 14:15, mindgames wrote:
I think the total meaning of Psychedelia was not explored in all it's glory!
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By most, included my self I think. Indeed.
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On 2006-02-16 14:55, Anak wrote:
to the psychedelic debate (i never get involved into these, but lets make an exception): surely the term psychedelic (and therefore psychedelic trance) has a lot to do with drugs but we must not forgot that several "topics" from "psychedelic scene" get mentioned by other "groups" of people also, that do not relate themselves directly to psychedelic drugs, i.e. (neo-)esoteric groups exploring astral journeys, depth of the mind etc., even more efficiently than people using drugs for experiencing these.
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Absolutely, and I wish to one day go much deeper inside this world. I'm 26, so I got the time. My time isn't now. .. But yet again, this kind of experience (I'm not unfamiliar to this side of "psy" Not at all, but I wish to dig deeper when I get older and when live in another society, ergo not the capitalistic 08:00 – 16:00 days that I’m serving now ).
All my deepest respect to those who practice this kind of inner journey. Deep respect.
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