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very important message for all djs and promoters around the world!!!!!!!!!
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splinter
Splinter / Kode Six
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Posted : Feb 24, 2009 20:26
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Lol,
The metatron guy posts that he got his money stolen or whatever,and then everyone posts asking him to please explain why and what happend and metatron's reply is :
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On 2009-02-24 16:08, metatron.p wrote:
dudu is a thief!!!!!!!!!!!
G A N A V
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please do us a favour and lock this thread.
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Nomolos(Zenon Rec.)
IsraTrance Junior Member
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Posted : Feb 25, 2009 02:29
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i have had the pleasure to work with both Shlomi (Metatron) and Ras Dudu and was treated very fairly by both...
i think you are both super cool dudes and i'm sure you can solve this issue without making this public and ugly!!
Cheers
"....or is it???"
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Fu Hsi
Perfect Stranger
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Posted : Feb 25, 2009 05:04
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Usually I don't log in under my artist name, because I don't really believe in the blue color heh but this time I will.
Before I start, I will say this will be a short one, as the long version in Hebrew will be posted in wider spread over the Facebook later on.
I will start tho, with saying that Dudu Ras never fucked me up! ( Surprising huh, Dudu... )
And I will continue with saying that Shlomi from Metatron does behave not so smart in this topic and in general
And I will add that I must be a total idiot to defend Shlomi and shed some light on this story since he can't do it himself, so here it goes.
It is true that Dudu brings killer artists to Israel, and ofcourse he pays all of them. It is also true that many Israeli known and less known names played for him over last years, and all of them will definitely say he never fucked them up, not only because he never did, but also because they might been asked to answer in this thread, and I do believe that everyone that wants to play in Dudu's parties will reply here, and we will have a ball showing that Dudu is an Angel and Shlomi from Metatron is a moron and a stupid kid.
So far so good..
But no, there is other side to this story:
Metatron is a very small production that throws wikkid underground parties in the far north of Israel. They don't have much money and since they don't really use heavy public promotion they don't really use this forum..
Metatron looked at Atmos's schedule one day and found out that he is booked in Israel.. So they called Peter Didjital to ask if they can book Tomasz as well, and were referred to mr Dudu Ras to deal that.
Apparently they were not the only ones as the Haifa based Luna club, also asked for the same artist. Luna club in Haifa is an old associate and big promoter too, for those that do not know it yet.
Both of them got offers, but different ones. The difference was that Metatron got an offer that didn't allow them to promote Atmos in any way... Ofcourse Luna club wasn't asked to do that, they wouldn't agree ofcourse as any sensible organization and also as I said they are big enough and important enough.
Before I continue I want you to check out a little something:
Winter time, small outdoor party, in the north, that pays full fee for artist like Atmos but is not allowed to say he is... ( Because if they would, alot of really cool party ppl will come to nature ofcourse )... with these terms they are doomed to loose their pants before they have even started promoting, since there is nothing to promote...
Not very fair proposition isn't it?
Unfortunately they took the proposition ( not a smart move huh ) and week later understood that they can kiss their money good bye this way..
So they asked to change, but never got a reply about that.
Rest of the story is known, they printed invites without the name of Atmos, and some invites with the name of Atmos, and then somehow their flyers with Atmos name were found in Dudu Ras party with Boris Brejcha... So mr Ras canceled their party, and the 500 euros so they claimed went on hotel expenses and extending the flight of Atmos home.
So far so good... Metatron weren't very smart in this story.
But the stinky part is that offer they got.. Take Atmos, pay money, but you can't promote it...
And just a week before the cancelation, Dudu wanted also to buy out one of the DJ's that were supposed to back up Atmos in Metatron's party... nice no?...
So here is the story in full - Rejoice progressive trance scene. Never thought it will get this disgusting, but heh I have a short memory..
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Fu Hsi
Perfect Stranger
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Posted : Feb 25, 2009 05:08
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So yeah I never been fucked up by Dudu Ras.
Also he books most of Iboga artists and DJ's from overseas.
But I will be damned and burned in bloody hell if I will ever play for him or one of his partners again - that is what I wrote them personally last night ( personally )
And the rest of Telanovella will follow on Perfect Stranger's facebook page soon as well as Perfect Stranger Myspace - must answer the serious public accusations that mr Dudu Ras has written about me ho ho ho
Please stay tuned!!
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Fu Hsi
Perfect Stranger
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Posted : Feb 25, 2009 05:21
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And totally last thing:
Remember this:
Israeli trance scene was EVER grown upon it's small underground events. EVER. Not upon the fancy Tel Aviv clubs, and not upon the foreign artists. In the end of the day, those small underground productions, are the ones that expose the youth to the original Trance vibe that can not be found in big cities, and commercial clubs.
I am not a kid anymore and don't have to do it, and still, make sure I play these parties since I know that this is the future of the scene.
However, there are people that think, that those small party organizers, that are only starting doing parties, are easy prey to get some cash flowin' - and this is spittin' in the well we all drink from.
Read this well.
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Avishay
IsraTrance Full Member
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Posted : Feb 25, 2009 09:56
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why, shlomi, why ?
you couldn't have let Dudu, Mark, Gerry, Amir and Miki stand there in shame for the pitiful stunt they puled yesterday all over facebook?
getting down into the mud with them only makes you too dirty, and this thread proves it.
I am not getting into any of the business terms, misunderstanding, contracting and what not, its not my turf, not my interest and not my or anyone's damn biz-wacks. Everyone made mistakes, people learn from mistakes and grow, learn how and with who to deal.
I do, however, HATE what has been done yesterday to Shlomi and my best friend Yuli.
This discussion should not have been outed, and for those of you who don't know, or understand already by what has been written so far, this is by no means the first public exposure of this discussion. The letter posted by Dudu, and signed by all five people I mentioned above is disgusting and offending and only serves shitty purposes; to enlarge ego and save face.
so, faces have been saved and egos have grown.
everybody happy ?
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Elad
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Posted : Feb 25, 2009 10:45
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i have to agree with 3 things here based on what i know in the scene here for the last 8 years
ras dudu have very good reputation with many many many parties and artists local and international.. he is sure not thief. he is party promoter. i can believe there was extra expenses due to the story , and surely not atmos will pay those.
second is that the offer is 100% not fair , what is this to make party with no promo it should be 50% of the payment like this.. obviously atmos is not cheap act to pay for and its based totaly on the fact that the NAME bring people to the party , so metatron should have never to agree from the first place , after they did , the flyers with the name should never been printed.
and third , its 100% true that the small nature friendly gatherings is what keep the scene and making it from scratch. evry artist and production knows that. www.sattelbattle.com
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Metatron Productions
Metatron Productions
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Posted : Feb 25, 2009 14:25
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Hi Guys and Girls ,
just to clear Again !!!!
METATRON-PRODUCTION ( israeli label company )
not connect to this (super cool ) guys , they just stole the label name and since then i have only troubles, i hear only the bad news all the time , what next ? ppl will ask from me to return money if they not enjoy the party ????
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FREAKS THE CREEPS...
V/A Urban Freaks in stores
THE EARTH IS MOVING...
www.metatron-production.com
www.myspace.com/metatronproduction
www.wirikuta.at
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ras dudu
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Posted : Feb 25, 2009 19:42
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Ok this will be my final reply for this topic , it gone a bit too far…..
1st , I need to apologize to Yuli , only in my name to put some ugly word against you,
I meant all that I was written, but I should have used a better language, I was totally upset when I wrote this words.
2nd thing that we all need too understand is that the money shlomi gave is NOT advance money for the ARTIST it advance money for the expenses that all this tour cost,
I do it will most of the productions that are cooperating with me,
This is a regular routine that came to make this tour safe both for the productions and artist,
I need to do it because I’m giving MY word to the artists and bookers that all will work fine.
As for all the rest,
For the last day I’m getting massages from shlomi about harming my life and stuff like this ….
From now on I’ll deal with this issue on privet channels ....
27.9 "rosh hashana" - RAS DUDU @ COMFORT 13 & BASE LINE crew
POLL PARTY with: SUN PROJECT - full 3 members LIVE SHOW & TSOYUSHI SUZUKI - retro set!
29.9 - RAS DUDU @ FUNKY BEATS with: MARK ROMBOY !!! |
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SamePaul
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Posted : Feb 25, 2009 21:25
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Seems I gonna cry now...
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So you still insist that Yuli has no rights to say anything against what you have done? I thought we live in country with freedom of speech...
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Shlomi performs massages? What kind of massage - shiatsu or foot-massage?  |
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mechanix
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Posted : Feb 26, 2009 01:33
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dudu is a killer guy i know him years from his first partys!!!
u can say on him alot of things but i dont think "ganav" its the right word...
hope u both will fix ur problem on tthe best side!
www.myspace.com/mechanixx
Digital Pride compiled by mechanix out now!!!
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Elad
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Metatron Productions
Metatron Productions
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Posted : Feb 26, 2009 15:22
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jimbo
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Posted : Feb 27, 2009 11:13
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didnt you guys have enough fighting in the facebook?
no need to bring your fights here also, i dont think this the kind of promotion you want (both sides of this childish fight)
and BTW
i dont want to get involved in this story but only one thing pisses me off
why the hell did you sign this contract?!?!?!?!
the moment you signed you cant really complain about anything couse its YOUR mistake
next time dont sign and save yourself the truble
and i dont see nothing wrong in mr dudu behavior, thats buisness... the man is making a living out of this things, he's not doing it for fun, i can understand him |
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