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woodster77
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Posted : Mar 26, 2011 14:43
thought that mid was different to mono in the aspect that mono in stereo mode is actually dual mono

if that makes any sense???           Â°Â°Â°ACTS 4:12°°°°
PoM
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Posted : Mar 26, 2011 14:47
the middle is all the center information aka mono aka both chanel are identical and side is everyhing else . i will check the net for the more precise description when i have time .
PoM
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Posted : Mar 26, 2011 14:51
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On 2011-03-26 14:43, woodster77 wrote:
thought that mid was different to mono in the aspect that mono in stereo mode is actually dual mono

if that makes any sense???




no it dont make sense to me, it s still mono if both chanel are identical , and it s in the middle.

download the free voxengo msed , it s very usefull and all will become very clear , in fact you dont need to know the theorie behind it for using it ,just listen... or check the net if you want the theorie on it. i m not sure how the side and middle are calculated... to me middle equal the sum of both chanel and side is everyhting else. if it s true ,middle equal mono and side all the difference between both chanel aka the stereo informations.
PoM
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Posted : Mar 26, 2011 16:49
here mono and stereo track should not be mixed with mono and stereo information . thatz why it s not very clear ,cause it depends what you call mono and stereo . it should be defined first.

to make it more simple middle side let you separate the mono and stereo information from a sound and change their balance and/or process them differently .

where it become more confusing in theorie but not at all in practice (listening >> reading ) is a stereo signal don t mean it s on the side when converterd to middle side... a stereo sound have both middle and side information offcourse .
a stero signal with no middle information is possible and it cancell in mono
Elad
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Posted : Mar 26, 2011 22:36
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On 2011-03-26 16:49, PoM wrote:
stereo sound have both middle and side information offcourse .



that was my Q exactly

so its only Mid / Side

altho if you raise side volume it stell effect the stereo image          www.sattelbattle.com
http://yoavweinberg.weebly.com/
demoniac
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Posted : Mar 28, 2011 03:14
it's really hard to control this           VA - Spiritual Science out now!
http://www.activemeditationmusic.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=703&category_id=6&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=7
skyhighatrist
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Posted : Mar 28, 2011 22:01
really impressed with the fabfilter videos in general. some really good stuff in there.           http://www.catawampus-records.co.uk/Catawampus_Records/Skyhighatrist.html
daark
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Posted : Mar 30, 2011 17:50
this m/s processing does really harsh phasing omg !!!
bad           http://soundcloud.com/magimix-1/chilling-forest-whispers
Wierd shit happens :)
demoniac
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Posted : Apr 15, 2011 04:05
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On 2011-03-30 17:50, daark wrote:
this m/s processing does really harsh phasing omg !!!
bad



yup you need to be really carefull with it, less is more in this case           VA - Spiritual Science out now!
http://www.activemeditationmusic.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=703&category_id=6&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=7
Elad
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Posted : Apr 15, 2011 13:06
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On 2011-03-30 17:50, daark wrote:
this m/s processing does really harsh phasing omg !!!
bad




click mono to make sure nothing is lost
it can actually work exacly to do that too.. but it takes more then 'random' work and lots of listening and turn your mono on/off           www.sattelbattle.com
http://yoavweinberg.weebly.com/
aciduss
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Posted : Apr 15, 2011 22:51
I found this, maybe you guys like it:
http://createdigitalmusic.com/2011/04/learn-mastering-technique-in-free-videos-limiting-ms-dubstep-bass/
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