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golem
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Posted : Jun 8, 2010 17:01:03
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Do you have any examples of masterpieces of mixing skills? Something that has like 20-30 channels and you can separate all sounds?
I know some artists whose tunes I consider well mixed (e.g. Koxbox new album, Deadmau5, Infected Mushroom, Cosmosis new album), but in nearly all stuff, altough rich if different kind of sounds, you hear only a few layers simultaneously so you really have to separate max. 5-7 different channels, and it you would think that it is relatively easy.
Maybe Aphex Twin also interesting, but it also does not have that many simultaneous layers...?
 
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ZenMind
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Posted : Jun 8, 2010 17:48
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Golem if i understand your question what you are looking for is a done in a symphonic mix with 50 instruments in it and even there you will find that
1-Instruments with the same tone will not play at the same time or the same notes (it would mud the sound or provoke freq cancellation)
2- In a normal mix the stereo width is 180º divided by two channels (left and right speaker) so there must be a judicious distribution of elements, positioning them in a way that works well creatively and logically (like the position of a drummer)
3- Its not possible to have all sounds in a mix sounding crystal clear each element occupies its own freq range and cant overlap each other, you must chose witch elements will be the main ones and witch ones will go to the background working only as a support.
In dance music theres almost no hard pan of an element due to the public in live situations staying most of the time in either left or right side of the club (or outdoor) speakers, leaving only a small percentage of listeners that are in the center of the stereo field. This complicates a bit the separation of the elements in the mix leaving you with just -/+ 50% of panning space to work with (50 is too much already...). Add the difficulty of balancing the frequencies to achieve a mud free mix and you tighten your options even more, leaving you with those 5-7 channels to work with at any given time (you can even have 60 channels but never playing at the same time).
Hope this was helpful.
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SineFreq
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Posted : Jun 9, 2010 03:01
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ZenMind thank you for taking your time to write this it was very helpful to my understanding of mixing dance music. Mainly the panning field being reduced because of the listener sittin' left or right situation. Its something you come to figure out, but your explanation of the principles is very clear.
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