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TRapp
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Posted : Sep 26, 2005 10:24
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this whole concept of PLUR fucking vegetarian thing is a load of crap....
its like you all clain how you are saving animals and not hurting the enviroment and blah blah blah ....
last time i checked plants are also living organisms...hate to break it to you....but when you pick them or when they are picked...THEY DIE...so you killargh them without thinking, ...and then claim what a great human being you are for not killing living organisms
eating meat is a natural evolutionary thing, ....you are not normal if you feel the need not to...cos like lions and carnivores dont just say...i am not gona eat antelope today ....its about survival....human beings who decided not to eat meat are weaker naturally than the ones who do....sorry to break it to you but it is true....
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The Green Channel
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Posted : Sep 26, 2005 10:28
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On 2005-09-26 00:05, Willy Wonka wrote:
I've seen not that many, most of ppl i know do the meat, well in Israel, kosheer meat bit diffferent since by Judaism animals killed without getting feared so probably all adrenalin which can be responsible for aggression is close to zero.
Although, Vegetarians for me are!
Stupidness factor imho, i see 90% vegeterians as slim, white-green faced, angry, poor bastards who feed themselfs with turnips and nuts.
For fuck sake, don't write their lame arguments in here. They want to eat vegetables, go for it, there is no scientifical or moral justification to your actions. Just do whatever you want since it doesn't bother/hurt anyone.
Muhahaha, where is my pork steak?
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My friend , do you know how to express yourself with out all the anger?
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Acidhive
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Posted : Sep 26, 2005 10:28
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On 2005-09-26 10:24, TRapp wrote:
this whole concept of PLUR fucking vegetarian thing is a load of crap....
its like you all clain how you are saving animals and not hurting the enviroment and blah blah blah ....
last time i checked plants are also living organisms...hate to break it to you....but when you pick them or when they are picked...THEY DIE...so you killargh them without thinking, ...and then claim what a great human being you are for not killing living organisms
eating meat is a natural evolutionary thing, ....you are not normal if you feel the need not to...cos like lions and carnivores dont just say...i am not gona eat antelope today ....its about survival....human beings who decided not to eat meat are weaker naturally than the ones who do....sorry to break it to you but it is true....
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Amen brother! Well spoken. I agree 100%.
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The Green Channel
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Posted : Sep 26, 2005 10:33
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On 2005-09-26 10:24, TRapp wrote:
this whole concept of PLUR fucking vegetarian thing is a load of crap....
its like you all clain how you are saving animals and not hurting the enviroment and blah blah blah ....
last time i checked plants are also living organisms...hate to break it to you....but when you pick them or when they are picked...THEY DIE...so you killargh them without thinking, ...and then claim what a great human being you are for not killing living organisms
eating meat is a natural evolutionary thing, ....you are not normal if you feel the need not to...cos like lions and carnivores dont just say...i am not gona eat antelope today ....its about survival....human beings who decided not to eat meat are weaker naturally than the ones who do....sorry to break it to you but it is true....
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Hallo Trapp,
Have you been in Tibet?
The monkes there only sleep 2-4 hours a night and look much more ALIVE then anyone i know here in the West.
However i agree with you on one thing though, alot of the Veg. here in the west don't know how to be a veg. (they don't get enough protein).
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Dainty Doll
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Posted : Sep 26, 2005 15:43
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Hello.
Quote of Trapp - beings who decided not to eat meat are weaker naturally than the ones who do....
You are maybe the most stupid person i have ever seen reply in here. You never know what peoples reasons are for not eating meat. Some people just don't like the taste, we are all diffrent and we can all live how we want it. Because some people dont eat meat, dosent make them weaker than you.
If they think they are helping saving the animals by not eating meat, let them think that, maybe they are, we can't know.
I am a vegetarian for 1 simple reason.
There are simply to many shitty diseases in the animals. Cow-disease, salmonella, bird-flue and so on. I am too paranoid to eat meat, and since we can get everything as a meat substitute here in england and it basicly taste the same, then why take the chances.
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Run Lola
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Posted : Sep 26, 2005 16:32
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I agree with June, people might have different reasons for becoming vegetarians, and whatever that reason is, we ought to respect it.
Even though i eat meat, but try to keep it in small portions, and if ie evr turn into a vegetarian it wont be because i feel sorry for the little birds and chicks and cows.. hehe, it would more because i feel sorry for myself and my body
but i would be against any person saying that being vegetarians is part of the psychedelic lifestyle.. why put rules anyway ?
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TRapp
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Posted : Sep 26, 2005 16:45
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On 2005-09-26 15:43, June Rashava wrote:
Hello.
Quote of Trapp - beings who decided not to eat meat are weaker naturally than the ones who do....
You are maybe the most stupid person i have ever seen reply in here. You never know what peoples reasons are for not eating meat. Some people just don't like the taste, we are all diffrent and we can all live how we want it. Because some people dont eat meat, dosent make them weaker than you.
If they think they are helping saving the animals by not eating meat, let them think that, maybe they are, we can't know.
I am a vegetarian for 1 simple reason.
There are simply to many shitty diseases in the animals. Cow-disease, salmonella, bird-flue and so on. I am too paranoid to eat meat, and since we can get everything as a meat substitute here in england and it basicly taste the same, then why take the chances.
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thats the lamest thing ever June...
hi i live in africa.....guess what , i have more chance of catching somthing ffrom any meat i eat then you...and i eat meat ever day without worrying, i am not paranoid at all....
lets go back a couple of thousand years....if you as a human had the oppurtunity to eat meat and you passed it up....thats weakness....if you believe in concepts of survival of the fittest you would understand...
btw...its not about the taste..its about the natural process of what meat contains and how that strengthens your body.....again, yea so it tastes like meat , but it hasnt got the molecular structure as meat and therefore it wont give you the same amount of strength and energy.....
eating meat is a natural human thing....we are biologically programmed to do it....IT IS INSTINCT.....
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The Green Channel
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Posted : Sep 26, 2005 17:06
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On 2005-09-26 16:45, TRapp wrote:
thing....we are biologically programmed to do it....IT IS INSTINCT.....
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No, that's why your stomach is 6-7 times longer then a cats or a dogs stomach for instance, their stomach is made to eat only meat.
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NeutroN
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Posted : Sep 26, 2005 17:09
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Are u guys sure being a vegetarian or not has ANY thing to do with psytrance? Im not a vegetarian but who gives a shit? Im not bothered if people are vegetarian, I've got loads of mates who are vegetarian and they cook some great food, and guess what? they dont like psytrance.
Now please explain me the correlation between psytrance and vegetarians. and not a stupid debate about meat or veg being better or saying that vegetarians are weak and u are the man just because u eat meat.
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Dainty Doll
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Posted : Sep 26, 2005 17:11
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On 2005-09-26 15:43, June Rashava wrote:
Hello.
Quote of Trapp - beings who decided not to eat meat are weaker naturally than the ones who do....
You are maybe the most stupid person i have ever seen reply in here. You never know what peoples reasons are for not eating meat. Some people just don't like the taste, we are all diffrent and we can all live how we want it. Because some people dont eat meat, dosent make them weaker than you.
If they think they are helping saving the animals by not eating meat, let them think that, maybe they are, we can't know.
I am a vegetarian for 1 simple reason.
There are simply to many shitty diseases in the animals. Cow-disease, salmonella, bird-flue and so on. I am too paranoid to eat meat, and since we can get everything as a meat substitute here in england and it basicly taste the same, then why take the chances.
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thats the lamest thing ever June...
hi i live in africa.....guess what , i have more chance of catching somthing ffrom any meat i eat then you...and i eat meat ever day without worrying, i am not paranoid at all....
lets go back a couple of thousand years....if you as a human had the oppurtunity to eat meat and you passed it up....thats weakness....if you believe in concepts of survival of the fittest you would understand...
btw...its not about the taste..its about the natural process of what meat contains and how that strengthens your body.....again, yea so it tastes like meat , but it hasnt got the molecular structure as meat and therefore it wont give you the same amount of strength and energy.....
eating meat is a natural human thing....we are biologically programmed to do it....IT IS INSTINCT.....
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1st thing - So i am lame because you don't worry? Erhmm it dosent make sence!
2nd thing - Babe i dont live a thousand years ago. I live now, and i got the option. So why should i pretend that i live in an age where they didnt even have Computers and Cd-players. A bit silly !
And yes i agree we are diffinently ment to eat meat. There is no way out of that one. But when you got choices, then why igore them. Noone is getting categorized, as being weak, in this time, just because then choose not to eat meat.
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Dainty Doll
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Posted : Sep 26, 2005 17:14
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On 2005-09-26 17:09, NeutroN wrote:
Are u guys sure being a vegetarian or not has ANY thing to do with psytrance? Im not a vegetarian but who gives a shit? Im not bothered if people are vegetarian, I've got loads of mates who are vegetarian and they cook some great food, and guess what? they dont like psytrance.
Now please explain me the correlation between psytrance and vegetarians. and not a stupid debate about meat or veg being better or saying that vegetarians are weak and u are the man just because u eat meat.
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There is none. Its only because people come in this scene and notice that there are many vegy's. But there are everywhere
Its not just in the trance scene and its not just hippies.
Its everybody.
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Suspekt
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Posted : Sep 26, 2005 17:19
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Trapp: Some people believe in for reasons beyond your small level of conception my friend. For me, im a strong believer in Karma and reincarnation, in my spiritual believe killing any organism (even a plant) causes some sort of reaction. however killing animals could be considered perhaps a more "serious" crime karmically. In many cultures this is why you see them offer food- usually vegetarian- to god, because it is in their belief it washes the karma clean of killing the plant. Many wont eat food at all before offering it, so maybe this opens your small mind a little to why people behave the way they do. Im not speaking for 100% of veges, there are many different reasons but for me and a majority of india thats one of the main ones.
I doubt you have an open enough mind to realise people could hold different belief systems than you, and your especially unlikely to change after reading some message board. Hopefully something in real life will open you to fact that the whole world operates with different ways of thinking and thats what makes us who we are.
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TRapp
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Posted : Sep 26, 2005 20:50
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On 2005-09-26 17:19, Suspekt wrote:
Trapp: Some people believe in for reasons beyond your small level of conception my friend. For me, im a strong believer in Karma and reincarnation, in my spiritual believe killing any organism (even a plant) causes some sort of reaction. however killing animals could be considered perhaps a more "serious" crime karmically. In many cultures this is why you see them offer food- usually vegetarian- to god, because it is in their belief it washes the karma clean of killing the plant. Many wont eat food at all before offering it, so maybe this opens your small mind a little to why people behave the way they do. Im not speaking for 100% of veges, there are many different reasons but for me and a majority of india thats one of the main ones.
I doubt you have an open enough mind to realise people could hold different belief systems than you, and your especially unlikely to change after reading some message board. Hopefully something in real life will open you to fact that the whole world operates with different ways of thinking and thats what makes us who we are.
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okay so you say its all karma based....if that is acase than there are alot of animals with really BAD karma......like for example, tigers, lions, cheetahs,leopards,sharks,killer whales....
yea...living organisms that kill other living organisms to survive...this is called equilibrium.....yea these animals dont offer fuck all to any gods before they make their kills....their kills are for survival...TO LIVE,...
humans are still animals...just btw....the things is about humans is we cheat equilibrium everyday....think about it...all our technology , everything....its fucking up mother earth, everything you do in your day in some way or another is having a negative effect on the earth, even if you think no its not , it does, the clothes you wear, the food you eat, the bicycles you ride, when you are really sick and you go to the hospital, the newspaper you read,...i can go on and on....you see this is not being closed minded....close minded is where you say , "oh i dont eat meat, therefore i am good for the planet"....thats not the way things work i am afraid
humans have fucked the natural equilibirum up....thats the truth, just by living we are doing more damage to this earth than anything, us and our uncontrollable manifistations....
as far as karma goes.....
we are all beings of energy....energy cannot be created nor destroyed.....think about that...
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Posted : Sep 26, 2005 23:25
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Posted : Sep 26, 2005 23:35
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Without the big amounts of flesh we ate our brain wasn 't that complex now
And we couldn't think about eating animals.
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