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SenC
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Posted : Aug 5, 2013 22:37:58
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Anyone of you got any tips or technics how i can get a good kick especially for hightech? |
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Djones
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Posted : Aug 6, 2013 16:34
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Wish I could help, looks like a great kick designer.
There's just no demo available unfortunately.
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SenC
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Posted : Aug 6, 2013 18:41
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yeah it's quiet cool, but a little bit complicated to get a good tuned kick out of if with fitts with the bassline :-S |
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frisbeehead
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Posted : Aug 6, 2013 20:13
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also don't have that plug-in. looks pretty cool.
but it's got the amp and pitch envelopes, right? so that's where you should focus on. you don't want the kick to be long for high bpm. and it needs to sweep fast from higher pitch to lower. adjust the curves to taste. that amount of control is actually great, since you usually need more then one standard pitch envelope to craft a great kick - unless we're talking retro 808 style of kicks, of course. just make sure it starts higher (in pitch) and lands on the root note fast enough.
but... you don't need to tune it with the bass. you can place it one octave higher or lower, for example - and it's actually easier that way with very fast bpm: like the kick has a pitch movement from higher to lower, say it rests somewhere near one octave higher then the bass's fundamental, then the bass comes and it's almost like the whole thing is one bang. octaves are good indicators for that, since the whole thing behaves as one sound, can think of them as harmonics.
then just EQ it, there's an EQ in there to, right? you'll probably need to clear some mids while listening to the whole thing, to differentiate more the two sounds. the two extremeties on either side of this bell may need some adjustments to: you have the boom frequencies under 100Hz, 100Hz is like where the punch is, above that makes it sound rounder imo, and there's probably some rumble to. the other side you can boost higher mids for more presence. actually can think of this as those hi-fi Eqs almost: lower part you add more boom or punch, the higher you add presence and clickiness. But I think boosting is not a good idea at this point, change the balance by lowering what you don't want as proeminent, rather then boosting.
you can boost of course, but I'd personaly do that with an analogue modeled EQ imo and just a tiny touch, and while mixing more stuff, and later on... no need to get into much processing right away.
hope it helps |
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SenC
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Posted : Aug 7, 2013 18:27
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yeah it's about the amp and pitch envelopes, sounds nice mate, will give a try to your advices thx |
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