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VB1 how low is too low?
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jizy
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Posted : Jun 23, 2009 21:18
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Bassline channel 1 - route to aux 2 of them prefader turn main channel down.
eq one for Lo's 0-120hz. hp lp.
eq2 for mids 120hz-8000khz hp lp. also use shelves etc to taste if u want
eq2 channel use a phasor if u want
eq 1 put a tube warmth or whatever.
when u got right levels route both of these to one final channel. use a mono maker and stereo narrower for final result.
if u have brainworx control u can do this all on one channel.
Or look up M/S processing for other alternatives .
possibilities soon become endless
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Koozer Mox
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Posted : Jun 23, 2009 22:40
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Obelizk
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Posted : Jun 23, 2009 23:40
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jizy
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Posted : Jun 24, 2009 00:04
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ah mate, gunna take sum skills lol with vb1. i like the leads and stuff tho good work
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Obelizk
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Posted : Jun 24, 2009 05:34
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Obelizk
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Posted : Jun 24, 2009 10:34
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Nectarios
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Posted : Jun 24, 2009 10:49
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On 2009-06-24 05:34, Obelizk wrote:
yeah VB1 takes a lot of work. I usually use Trilogy or Alien303. SO much easier. One day, the riddle will be solved about this VB1 shit though.
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It baffles me as to why people keep using vb-1 up to this day. Not only because it takes a lot of work, but mainly because it takes a lot of work and it still sounds shite.
There are so many more (soft) synths to use that sound so much better. Ages ago people started talking about using vb-1, and then every n00b that started producing, jumped on the vb-1 bandwagon.
What is even more impressive is that people have been conditioned, to actually like using vb-1 for trance basslines.
There's no accounting for taste, eh?
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diskonekt
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Posted : Jun 24, 2009 11:10
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VB1 is not thaaaat much shite actually me thinks. You can layer it on top of a nice subbass and add some fx to it - that way it can produce results. Otherwise yeah it pretty much sucks and although the killargh combo of vb1 and quadrafuzz may work on the dancefloor, i for one get bored to death by it.
More on topic now, i just listened to the sample and i can say i can barely make out the bass. I am at work and on crappy pc speakers though but they're good for testing purposes - the bass should be more upfront.
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Obelizk
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Posted : Jun 24, 2009 11:12
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When it's tweaked right, I like VB-1. Doesn't stand out as much, but still keeps the lows. The way I tweak Trilogy is to make it more present. Alien is more between. So depending on the song, I like to use different basses. Plus, using the same one in every song is boring for me.
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Nectarios
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Posted : Jun 24, 2009 11:15
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On 2009-06-24 11:12, Obelizk wrote:
When it's tweaked right, I like VB-1. Doesn't stand out as much, but still keeps the lows. The way I tweak Trilogy is to make it more present. Alien is more between. So depending on the song, I like to use different basses. Plus, using the same one in every song is boring for me.
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The bass sounds wrong in that mix. Doesn't cut through enough, no punch, there's some odd quantisation action going on there (is it quantised to 1/16th?) and I don't like the actual sound, but that comes down to taste I guess.
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Nectarios
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Posted : Jun 24, 2009 11:22
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On 2009-06-24 11:10, diskonekt wrote:
VB1 is not thaaaat much shite actually me thinks.
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No it ain't, it just amazes me that so many people try the vb-1/quadra combo and say it takes so much work to make it sound even decent, and keep on trying simply because the word on the net is that it rocks...when they could be spending that time using one of the newer soft synts out there.
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gutter
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Posted : Jun 24, 2009 11:32
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On 2009-06-23 21:18, jizy wrote:
Bassline channel 1 - route to aux 2 of them prefader turn main channel down.
eq one for Lo's 0-120hz. hp lp.
eq2 for mids 120hz-8000khz hp lp. also use shelves etc to taste if u want
eq2 channel use a phasor if u want
eq 1 put a tube warmth or whatever.
when u got right levels route both of these to one final channel. use a mono maker and stereo narrower for final result.
if u have brainworx control u can do this all on one channel.
Or look up M/S processing for other alternatives .
possibilities soon become endless
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can you someday post a track of yours where you use these steps you suggest please
possibilities of turning the bass into the main lead become endless indeed 
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naga
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Posted : Jun 24, 2009 12:39
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It's more about How slow is VB-1
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naga
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Posted : Jun 24, 2009 13:33
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Just made a clip with VB1D0.. I think it way too muddly cause the gear i used
I just used EQ on instruments and nothing else.
http://www.sendspace.com/file/nstusx
bass highpass at 70hz 30db
filter at 160hz -5db
filter at 300hz -5db
filter at 5khz -5b
lowpass at 2k 6db "" |
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jizy
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Posted : Jun 24, 2009 14:00
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On 2009-06-24 11:32, gutter wrote:
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On 2009-06-23 21:18, jizy wrote:
Bassline channel 1 - route to aux 2 of them prefader turn main channel down.
eq one for Lo's 0-120hz. hp lp.
eq2 for mids 120hz-8000khz hp lp. also use shelves etc to taste if u want
eq2 channel use a phasor if u want
eq 1 put a tube warmth or whatever.
when u got right levels route both of these to one final channel. use a mono maker and stereo narrower for final result.
if u have brainworx control u can do this all on one channel.
Or look up M/S processing for other alternatives .
possibilities soon become endless
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can you someday post a track of yours where you use these steps you suggest please
possibilities of turning the bass into the main lead become endless indeed
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hey gutter mate, you obvously in sum kind of dilema with your self... thas my technique of making a fat bass wilst keeping lo's rock solid.. not phase mate no phase thas the point
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