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vanguard envelope control??

Saii
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Posted : Nov 12, 2008 06:10:13
hey guys,
how do you control envelope with amp envelope and filter envelopes on vanguard?
is this not a subtractive synth?
or i just didnt notice the knobs?
thanks guys

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Posted : Nov 12, 2008 09:53
there are 2 adsr envelopes in the middle of the gui
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Posted : Nov 12, 2008 12:06
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Posted : Nov 12, 2008 18:31
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Posted : Nov 12, 2008 19:37
some vst plugins might act up really weird indeed. there's a tip for avoiding that. when using such vsts try keeping ur eyes open and point then at the vst gui. this is some sort of uncorrected bug that causes some knobs and sliders to disappear when ur using it with ur eyes shut.


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MadScientist
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Posted : Nov 12, 2008 19:55
you guys are just rofl, but not really helpfull.

I think he is more wondering how to control the filter or the amp with the env (ignore this if I'm wrong and stick to the posts above me ). right to the adsr knobs are some more knobs, with those you control the amount of the env for the labelled destination. middle = 0, left = inverted env, right = normal env amount. just take the filter knob for example, turn it hard right and use the adsr knobs in that line, now you got the full envelope working on your filter.           https://soundcloud.com/hazak

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Posted : Nov 12, 2008 20:14
^

(at nerdkiller..sorry, posted late)
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Posted : Nov 12, 2008 20:16
yeah it's funny, but vanguard is a little frustrating to use, i agree Never liked it because of that           Monitoring devices, know where you go
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orgytime
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Posted : Nov 12, 2008 21:14
oh i have one question to this thing.

there are 2 adsr envelopes, but i dont get the point of it...

what i heard was, that the 1. adsr is for low freq´s and the 2. adsr for the high freq´s... somehow its really strange^^ anyone know better?^^

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MadScientist
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Posted : Nov 12, 2008 21:37
orgytime, simply read my post           https://soundcloud.com/hazak

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Kane
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Posted : Nov 12, 2008 23:04
To simplify/clarify, since I didn't understand it either for a long time: The 2 ADSR envelopes and 3 LFOs are "assignable" to detune, pwm, and filter cutoff (and amplitude [labeled "level] and filter resonance, but only in the envelope section). Turning any of these knobs (next to the ADSR and LFO speed) clockwise controls the modulation amount for that specific destination. Turning them counterclockwise controls inverse modulation..which is kinda difficult to explain and visualize.           You believe in the users?
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orgytime
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Posted : Nov 13, 2008 00:00
^^ ok, but why 2 adsr´s ? i dont know any other vst with 2 of them^^ hard to understand vanguards routings (i wrote the whole manual)           www.soundcloud.com/orgytime
Suloo
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Posted : Nov 13, 2008 01:07
Hey Orgy..this might help you out..

http://www.dark-zlime.de.tl/Vanguard-Synth.htm

i collected this little vanguard tutorial somewhere.. the first env is for the first osc and the second for the second..same with lfo..

check it out!!

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Posted : Nov 13, 2008 09:02
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Posted : Nov 13, 2008 09:20
Quote:

On 2008-11-13 09:02, acidkills wrote:
How to sync LFO in Vanguard?




You've got a retrigger button of each LFO..
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