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v-station for bass and controlling it's bottom end :/
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sy000321
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Posted : Feb 11, 2005 15:56
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is it my ears or does the v-station distort the bass badly?
i can't control the sub-bass region without destroying the whole bass end...
im using a highpass (in waves) to cut it... isn't this how it is supposed to be done?
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Elad
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Posted : Feb 11, 2005 16:17
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Boobytrip
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Posted : Feb 11, 2005 16:46
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The v-station is a really nice synth for basslines, but like tsabeat said, you should lower the volume of the sub-oscillator. Also make sure that your kick doesn't coincide with your bass notes you should have little distortion. You probably won't need any eq on the bass at all. |
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sy000321
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Posted : Feb 11, 2005 16:57
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i've tryed a lot of combinations of that preset
pulling the 3rd OSC down (it's a saw i think) makes the sound too basslight for my ears...
but i'll try it again... my ears not very trustworthy lolololo
booby: my kick is not on the bassline, it's cut nicely w/ envelope...
maybe i should try another synth for bass...
thanks
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Fingax
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Posted : Feb 11, 2005 17:09
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On 2005-02-11 16:57, sy000321 wrote:
i've tryed a lot of combinations of that preset
pulling the 3rd OSC down (it's a saw i think) makes the sound too basslight for my ears...
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put down the OSC volume not the OSC wave  actually the sub Osc volume.. |
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sy000321
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Posted : Feb 11, 2005 17:12
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On 2005-02-11 17:09, Fingax wrote:
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On 2005-02-11 16:57, sy000321 wrote:
i've tryed a lot of combinations of that preset
pulling the 3rd OSC down (it's a saw i think) makes the sound too basslight for my ears...
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put down the OSC volume not the OSC wave actually the sub Osc volume..
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i misspeled it... it'a a square...
i'm turning it down... in the volume... isn't it what i'm supposed to ? 
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EYB
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Posted : Feb 11, 2005 17:20
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Just play around a bit, also with filter env/env amount and the amp env. Then use a eq for fine tuning.
I think it is easy to make a good bass with v-station.
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sy000321
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Posted : Feb 11, 2005 17:21
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i'm doing that too...
my concern is more about eq and compression
and maybe that 3rd OSC (square) volume
thanks
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EYB
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Posted : Feb 11, 2005 18:20
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U can use all three osc, but u don't have to use them all. I made nice bass also with only osc1.
Compression also can be used but u don't have to compress it always.
Eqing is almost always nescary to get rid of ultra low frequencies, so cut low frequencies (depends who u like it of course) lower then 20-40hz. Then u can cut a bit resonating frequencies, search for them with the eq. Take one band of ur eq, set very high Q and raise volume to max. Then move the band through all frequencies. U will hear the resonating frequencies with a more unfriendly sound than the other frequencies (*note for me: i have to learn more english*).
Tip: lower ur main volume a bit before u do this
Now make the frequencies u found a bit lower and check if u got a bass u like.
Peace
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sy000321
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Posted : Feb 11, 2005 18:36
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i'll try that too...
i had already heard a that tipo for finding the reso freqs but never got usable results with it,
i'm going to try it all again, just hope i don't end with a overcooked bass
i hope next week i have a demo to show you all
thanks again friends,
joão
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mubali
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Posted : Feb 11, 2005 20:22
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Also another solution would be if you can't control the low end all the time would be to sample the bass note and maybe edit the audio file...
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WAVELOGIX
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Posted : Feb 11, 2005 21:30
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use the vb-1 for bass man ... no hassles @ all hhehe .... or get some ultra killer BASS from the vanguard ... if ur very serious about some fresh oven baked bass ... |
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Fingax
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Posted : Feb 11, 2005 23:02
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dont forget usualy a bass sound should be mono and making it with vanguard or any other stereo synth will never be the same as doing in a mono synth.
But all depends what you're looking for.
a stereo bass would always be more Xpanded than a mono and that could give u some bass freq u dont want.. and in mono it became in your face not like a stereo. Actually i always make my bass in mono. when i tryed to make it stereo in a track, nowadays i really can´t hear that track. is way far from what i pretend from a bass sound like..
Once again because i dont want missunderstandings... all depends what u want 
fica bem Joao
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CLAW
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Posted : Feb 11, 2005 23:38
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EYB
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Posted : Feb 12, 2005 00:26
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No no v-station is killer for bass. Why always using the same synth?
Mubali gave a great tip, sample ur synth and optimize with ur sound editor.
Peace
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