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Using the master tempo function when djiing.
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psychild
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Posted : Feb 8, 2006 05:32
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Well I see this part of the forum is geting less and less about djiing. Oh well, for lack of a better place here goes:
How many of you use the master tempo button to lock the pitch when mixing? Is it true that on some models of cdj's (mainly cdj-100) when used, this function makes the beatmatch less exact?
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phobium
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psychild
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Posted : Feb 8, 2006 17:36
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Ok so only the flanger distortion flanger thingie then? Nothing to do with beats running apart in the middle of the mix?
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UnderTow
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Posted : Feb 8, 2006 19:39
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It sounds bad. Just learn how to beatmatch. 
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psychild
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Posted : Feb 8, 2006 21:00
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On 2006-02-08 19:39, UnderTow wrote:
It sounds bad. Just learn how to beatmatch.
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ok now you're confusing me
you're saying learn how to beatmatch as in the master tempo does contribute to beat acuracy?
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knocz
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Posted : Feb 9, 2006 14:48
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What I think UnderTow is trying to say is try to match the beats without the help of automatic buttons. equal the BPM,put the next track on you headfones,and use your skills to make them exact. this should be done in a minute or less.
What i dont understand is if a dj is always correcting the tempo to the current track,his live is always at the same speed.. Am I correct? |
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UnderTow
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Posted : Feb 9, 2006 15:31
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Knocz, you understood me correctly about the beatmatching comment.
As for the speed of a set, you can always slowly adjust tempo as you go. Maybe a track just lacks a bit of energy so you can slowly increase speed. Also, you can very carefully adjust the speed of the track that is playing to the new track! Both CDJs have tempo faders. 
Also, if you have a good ear and sense of rythm, you don't need to have an exact match between the tempos. I usualy match the new track to be close to the old track but just a tiny bit faster. Like that I know the new track is always the faster one and as soon as things start to drift a bit, (The sound of the combined kicks changes. I don't mean train wrecks!) I don't have to think and just nudge the new track down a bit. So my sets tend to slowly accelerate.
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psychild
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Posted : Feb 12, 2006 00:25
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Ok I think you people misunderstood me. I am talking about the master tempo button you have on the cdj-100. The one that locks the pitch of the track so it stays the same no matter what tempo you set it too, so if you have let's say vocals in the track, the still have the same pitch if the speed of the track is changed. What does that have to do with automation and beatmatching? Or does it?
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black_cat
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Posted : Feb 12, 2006 02:18
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I never use it, on the CDJ-100 it distorts the kick drum slightly with some odd kid of unintended flanger effect.
I mean, you're basically doing on-the-fly time stretching, so this is no surprise.
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aeon is right, he said it right at the beginning. master tempo uses some kind of time stretching algo., i don`t think the beat matching will be less exact but the sound will be distorted more as you go away from the zero at the pitch. at extreme values it produces some kind of flanging or granulated fx, however this will not be so noticeable on +- 10% on 100s (on the kick or percussive elements yes). i don`t use it, sound is much better with this option off.
i think more than the same pitch, the overall flow and correct beatmatch is what makes mix rocking/groovy
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Posted : Feb 12, 2006 22:02
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On 2006-02-09 14:48, knocz wrote:
What i dont understand is if a dj is always correcting the tempo to the current track,his live is always at the same speed.. Am I correct?
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Not necessarily, you can always put the tempo up or down little by little during breaks n stuff after you've made the mix..
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