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MadPsyintist
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Posted : Jul 24, 2009 21:14
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On 2009-07-22 00:47, @ktif wrote:
Computers don't even come close to the processing power of the human mind imo.
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uhhhh.... what the f do you think a cdj is? a magical noise box that converts 1s and 0s into unsk. why do you think it requires that little pluggy thing. to that end though...the best psy trance (or any music for that matter) i've ever heard was in my head after 12 hours of dancing and a little lucy |
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@ktif
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Posted : Jul 24, 2009 22:06
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On 2009-07-24 21:14, MadPsyintist wrote:
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On 2009-07-22 00:47, @ktif wrote:
Computers don't even come close to the processing power of the human mind imo.
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uhhhh.... what the f do you think a cdj is? a magical noise box that converts 1s and 0s into unsk. why do you think it requires that little pluggy thing. to that end though...the best psy trance (or any music for that matter) i've ever heard was in my head after 12 hours of dancing and a little lucy
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A cdj is a cd player with pitch control. There is no magic behind it, it DOES convert ones and zeros into music.
http://www.howstuffworks.com/cd.htm
It requires the "little pluggy thing" because it operates on AC power.
I kinda don't understand where you are comming from.
Good points? And to think, I thought the entire time that the pluggy thingie in the back was a camelbak hose. Could never figure out where the damn water resovoir is on them though. |
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Mighty-Quinn Rec
Mighty Quinn Rec
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Posted : Jul 24, 2009 22:28
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From my personal experience I can tell you that this experiment alredy took place in Japan about one year ago, at the amazing outdoor gathering. The party was called "Battle Royal" and it included only DJs in line up, and label owners, who are also Djs. No live acts were present. The line up was following: DJ Giuseppe (Parvati), DJ Teo (Discovalley), Dj Becar (Insomnia), DJ Ken (Phreex Networx), DJ Spliffnik (Brainbusters), DJ Mondo (Fullmoon), and truly yours DJ Niki (Mighty Quinn).
The experiment was a totally "best of the best" successful Open Air gatherings and Psy-Dj Battles up to date!!
I cant tell you who the winner was because.........everybody was a winner!!! Perfect music, perfect crowd and nature, perfect dance and trip!
Would love to experience another Battle Royal...maybe II???
BooM!
N.
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www.myspace.com/mightyquinnrec
V/A "Eye of the Beholder" - Out Now!
V/A "Back to the Mothership" - Out Now! |
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bastardsamadhi
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Posted : Jul 24, 2009 22:32
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edit---- dead horse 
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MsoB
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Posted : Jul 25, 2009 00:18
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On 2009-07-24 18:06, Ascension wrote:
I'm not sure it's possible to put any of this into any context.
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PsyGZ
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Posted : Jul 25, 2009 03:36
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On 2009-07-23 19:46, maximjou wrote:
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On 2009-07-23 19:27, billy boogie wrote:
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On 2009-07-23 19:24, maximjou wrote:
AND REALISTICALY I PLAY FOR THE GIRLS> I DONT GIVE 2 SHI-TS> IF DUDES ARE ALL DROOLING TO SEE HOW IM MIXING OR WITH WHAT IF THE GIRLS ARE SHAKING THEIR FAT ASSES IM HAPPY BECAUSE THATS THE ONLY REASON I MAKE AND PLAY MUSIC TO GET LAID AND MEETS GIRLS GIRLS AND THEIR FRIENDS GIRLS. girls do not kjare about what u use if they like what u play and have a good time you in their pants, ON THE OTHER HAND IF YOU LOOKING AT HOW THE DJ IS MIXING THE WHOLE PARTY YOUR KINDA LAME AND GIRLS ARE PROBABLY NOT ON YOUR MIND AND YOU LOST THE WHOLE POINT OF GOING OUT TO PARTY
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Best post in isratrance history. It really doesn't matter, as long as the girls are shaking their fat asses.
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WOW FINALLY SOMEONE WITH A SENSE OF HUMOR, AND LOVE FOR MUSIC, GIRLS AND HAVING FUN AT PARTIES. NOW I WANNA GO PARTY ,BILLY BOOGIE LETS GO FIND SOME BROADS
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Or you could be at the party for the music, vibe of togetherness, etc.....
or you could DJ at Avalon... |
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DanVapid
Moderator
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Posted : Jul 25, 2009 15:36
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On 2009-07-24 18:41, mubali wrote:
You know... all that I ask is that you play decent music and try not to frackin trainwreck... Is that too much to ask for. Quit dickwaving... I honestly don't really care how many tracks you can play at the same time or how long you mix, as long as you don't trainwreck more than once in a set... In the end, if I really like the music, I'm not watching how you play it. I'm dancing with my eyes closed going on the journey that you are supposed to do. And yes tracks are supposed to be a journey, but honestly how far can you really go in 8 minutes. I do like the concept of a collaboration of short stories into a cohesive novel that really takes you someplace... In my ideal, that is what a dj set is all about for me. And the technical stuff is basically the grammar inside the novel.
But please, can we end this petty banter... I know some of you are having fun with this, but don't you have something better to do? It's summer for crying out loud, go do something.
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to sum it up in simple terms......less is more. psy has all of the tricks and tweaks built into it. overzealous mixer antics detract from the inherent structure and flow of the music and are blatantly obvious to those on the receiving end, in a negative way. if the dj feels bored and a need to kill time, it can be spent in a number of better ways. laptop mixing is cool, as long as the extra free time is used to improve the upcoming mix to the fullest extent. if technology is used only to make basic mixing techniques easier, then thumbs down. in the end, alex/bastard is right - dj's are only playing other people's music and therefore should keep a more humble perspective on their trade. also, mixing full on is more simple due to the music's structure, but most "dark" dj's circumvent the unpredictability of the music by either planning sets in advance and/or fading between beatless breakdowns. that's the tradeoff that exists. in any case, i wish there was a sarcastic smily available because this thread was started in jest and i'm glad most people treated it that way, interspersed with some genuine debate. as a final word, djs should resist the rockstar mentality and consider their actual role within this community. nobody has ever gained fame and fortune as a pure dj playing psytrance. a dj just plays an equal role in the collective experience that sets this scene apart. chasing after dj superstardom in psytrance amounts to chasing after a myth. you will surely become disappointed and jaded and set yourself back in life. if you can integrate your dj abilities with some other attribute such as label ownership or music production, then that dream can become more tangible. otherwise, just have fun with it, recognize your role and don't think you're something more than you are. my first and last two cents... |
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Ascension
IsraTrance Full Member
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Posted : Jul 25, 2009 19:18
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Actually, the main point of what started this can be summed up very simply:
If you're gonna do something, do it right (or at least start by doing the fundamentals right). There's a million things you can do to improve or ruin mixing, but if you don't have the fundamentals down, it really doesn't matter (at least not to me). http://soundcloud.com/ascensionsound
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DiMiTry
IsraTrance Full Member
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Posted : Jul 26, 2009 04:29
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On 2009-07-25 15:36, DanVapid wrote:
nobody has ever gained fame and fortune as a pure dj playing psytrance.
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um, Goa Gil
and guys, if you really want to show off your DJ skills, go play some techno or house or another mixing-intensive genre. psytrance DJ competition is like special olympics.
i kid, i kid..
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rob-ot
M-Field
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Posted : Jul 26, 2009 09:29
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On 2009-07-25 19:18, Ascension wrote:
Actually, the main point of what started this can be summed up very simply:
If you're gonna do something, do it right (or at least start by doing the fundamentals right). There's a million things you can do to improve or ruin mixing, but if you don't have the fundamentals down, it really doesn't matter (at least not to me).
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There's also the issue of lineups at parties and festivals not being booked on "meritocratically" as it were....(probably not a word)....but booked as 'bro hookups.
That's why you get DJs that dont have the requisite basic skills.
'nother reason to have mad respect for Rich (besides masterminding Gemini in the first place)....he doesn't do that...lineup is done based on talent and flow.
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saintcarl
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Posted : Jul 27, 2009 03:42
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On 2009-07-26 04:29, DiMiTry wrote:
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On 2009-07-25 15:36, DanVapid wrote:
nobody has ever gained fame and fortune as a pure dj playing psytrance.
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um, Goa Gil
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um, Wrong. No doubt fame in psy community but unless I am missing something I would not call what he is likely to make a fortune.
How much is a fortune these days anyway? |
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DiMiTry
IsraTrance Full Member
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Posted : Jul 27, 2009 10:55
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On 2009-07-27 03:42, saintcarl wrote:
How much is a fortune these days anyway?
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good question.
and Goa Gil isn't poor, based on what he charges and how many gigs he plays. Good for him though, he deserves it.
..it's just another party.. |
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hardkornate
IsraTrance Junior Member
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Posted : Jul 27, 2009 22:41
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On 2009-07-24 22:06, @ktif wrote:
A cdj is a cd player with pitch control. There is no magic behind it, it DOES convert ones and zeros into music.
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Actually, it's just a nerfed computer that's been built to resemble a turntable so that the vinyl purists would shut up about cheating.
It's quite funny that we now have people trying to claim the CDJ is somehow more legit than a computer, considering that when they came out, they were considered a tool of n00b DJ's not willing to do the work of a "real" DJ.
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Those People
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Posted : Jul 27, 2009 23:14
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On 2009-07-27 22:41, hardkornate wrote:
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On 2009-07-24 22:06, @ktif wrote:
A cdj is a cd player with pitch control. There is no magic behind it, it DOES convert ones and zeros into music.
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Actually, it's just a nerfed computer that's been built to resemble a turntable so that the vinyl purists would shut up about cheating.
It's quite funny that we now have people trying to claim the CDJ is somehow more legit than a computer, considering that when they came out, they were considered a tool of n00b DJ's not willing to do the work of a "real" DJ.
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LOL @ the irony. I used to catch so much shit playing cdj's when all my turntable mates were doing their thing. |
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MsoB
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Posted : Jul 28, 2009 00:22
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On 2009-07-27 22:41, hardkornate wrote:
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On 2009-07-24 22:06, @ktif wrote:
A cdj is a cd player with pitch control. There is no magic behind it, it DOES convert ones and zeros into music.
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Actually, it's just a nerfed computer that's been built to resemble a turntable so that the vinyl purists would shut up about cheating.
It's quite funny that we now have people trying to claim the CDJ is somehow more legit than a computer, considering that when they came out, they were considered a tool of n00b DJ's not willing to do the work of a "real" DJ.
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+1
IMO, purists (of any sort) tend to be too focused on one narrow skillset, which they try to attribute some made up "legitimacy" to, rather than focusing on the art-form as a whole. |
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