Xolvexs
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Posted : Apr 3, 2010 16:54
same same but different When death comes to your doorstep, make sure you are alive
Maine Coon
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Posted : Apr 4, 2010 00:37
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On 2010-04-03 16:43, supergroover wrote:
So now all dutch dj's play ' arms stretched out trance '?
Of course not. Gabber is Dutch too, right?
It's not an attempt to stereotype anybody. I know that Suomi can be produced in Japan. And I love a Goa album, written by a Greek guy - in Sweden
It's just the way to keep it straight inside my skull: Indian Goa, Russian Dark, Israeli Full On etc. Dutch "stretch-your-arms-in-the-air Uplifting"...
Anyway, thanks a lot for the Cheruvim link - I'll try to dig up more on the Web.
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Posted : Apr 4, 2010 02:17
You guys have lost me here.....maybe all the confusion is due to wikipedia :-p uplifting can aply to many different styles of music.... It's an emotion rather than a style right? To me uplifting generally refers to soaring, optimistic melodies and pads which express a sense of risining.....
The only connection I see between ' Dutch djs with arms outstretched' and ' Greek nitzho..' is the focus on emotionally cheerful sequences, hence uplifting...
Post Greek nitzhonot？ ... it must be that salziki tainted weed
that's making it's rounds on isratrance that are causing
these phenomena
To me the prodigy 'weather experience' is uplifting although it is none of the styles mentioned or even trance for that matter...
Uplifting = an emotion we feel when listening to music, not a style generally IMHO (or one I have totally neglected or missed;-p
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Maine Coon
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Posted : Apr 4, 2010 04:30
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Uplifting = an emotion we feel when listening to music, not a style generally
I think you are right: style names and a listener’s feelings may have nothing to do with each other. Surely, a lot of dark psy is not dark (evil, depressing etc.) at all!
Anyway, it seems from what I read here that Greek Uplifting is interesting only as a history lesson.
I know these style topics could be annoying to many people here.
Styles and genres may not be important to most of you, because you’ve been plugged into “The Scene” for many years. But it’s very different for somebody, for whom “electronic music” means “Jean-Michel Jarre”.
Anyway, thank you, everybody, for your answers.
Xolvexs
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Posted : Apr 4, 2010 12:19
i love to UPLIFT the skirts of those sexy chicks dancing all over the place...it really takes me into trance especially when i squeeze the soft buttocks aaaah thats the real trance
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Posted : Apr 5, 2010 00:22
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On 2010-04-04 12:19, Xolvexs wrote:
i love to UPLIFT the skirts of those sexy chicks dancing all over the place...it really takes me into trance especially when i squeeze the soft buttocks aaaah thats the real trance
basically, Greek Uplifting Trance is a really distinct genre, often with a big zappy kick and traditionally with 'karamouza'-styled melodies (i.e. a typical kind of synthsound, like a trumpet). Nowadays the music has really gone underground, but be sure to check http://www.uplifting.gr for more info if u'd be interested. I'm a big fan of this music and still supporting it til today, also playing it on parties in Belgium etc...
U want a top track in this genre? One of my personal favorites...->
Lennox - Reflections
Typical Uplifting track I wrote with Cyberia some years ago...
Maine Coon
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Posted : Apr 6, 2010 04:50
Agneton,
Thanks a lot for the links and explanations – it’s very helpful. Interesting, from these examples it seems like the only link between Nitzhonot and Uplifting is that aggressive helium kick. Otherwise, it’s very different.
I’ve gotta say, the “Unraveling” track made me feel like it has no space or time of “birth”. It seems to combine features from the 80’s and the 90’s, the North and the South, the East and the West. Seemingly incompatible things managed to sit together quite well: I suddenly imagined Kraftwerk and Sabrina Salerno working together on a joint project.
There was a wave of songs in the USSR around 1990 that combined in a strange way mainstream pop with gang songs, Cossack anthems with heavy metal, Ukrainian folk with punk-rock etc. You probably won’t find anything in common between that and Uplifting, but it somehow feels similar to me. They are all blends of styles from seemingly incompatible times and places. What can I say? Stranger things happened in the 90s...
I have some links to some clips of that time. But they are not trance, so I didn’t post them. If anybody’s interested – I’ll post them here later.
Thanks again for the explanations – now I can look up more.
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Posted : Apr 6, 2010 16:45
Go straight to the sixth minute, do not listen to all of it.. i don't feel so proud
Maine Coon
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Posted : Apr 6, 2010 19:50
Catchy! Sounds like something people would sing at a soccer match. Although, I agree - the only psychedelic part about it was pictures in the video.
These hybrid experiments may sound strange or cheezy now, but I am sure they were fun at the time they were written. I'll give you an example of extreme cheeze, that was a superhit at the time (1990) because it seemed very fresh and upifting and sorta touching on national heritage themes then. I would call it "Cossack nostalgia pop".
Oleg Gazmanov – 1990 – “Eskadron” (“Squadron”) :
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Posted : Apr 8, 2010 14:48
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On 2010-04-01 17:45, daio wrote:
it had become some kind of mainstream or something and until today people that are not so much in electronic music have this one in their minds when they hear about psychedelic!
Whoever you say to greece that youre listening to psychedelic trance or anyway if you mention these two words immediately will think of the "trumpet" era.
Must admit back in the days the dress code and hairstyling of the ravers was the most ridiculous and funny ever existed in Greece, much more than the 80ies worldwide kits era .. very lol !!
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On 2010-04-06 16:45, JohnTaramas wrote:
Go straight to the sixth minute, do not listen to all of it.. i don't feel so proud
Yeah that Popeye tune kinda sucked, the first minutes are cool imo...
That doesn't mean Greece didn't deliver quality artists...Cyan has a lot of great tracks that still work excellent on the dancefloor. It's timeless music! (at least here in Belgium). Moreover Darma, Quazar and a bunch of other artists really made good tracks.
Nuff said, or this will end up to be some bitching discussion again
kurita
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Posted : Apr 9, 2010 13:30
arms stretched out trance 
