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UNDERGROUND dead or not

Oran
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Posted : Aug 5, 2005 11:44
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On 2005-08-05 04:41, Dr. Borris wrote:
This summer there are less "Underground" parties also cause some underground promoters have decided that they can't lose any more money doing quality underground events. sorry but I'd rather go to a less "underground" party with a good soundsystem and some good music then to a true "underground" party with 2 distorted monitors and a DJ that has no idea what he is doing on the decks.



that's exectly what i was trying to say.

the big productions doesent leave anychance to the small one's.and by this just killing the real underground.no underground orgenizer can compite with the big productions(it doesent matter if they promote their parties less now its a fact that the all fucking country knows about those parties)and some small org's within the prog scene wont even try to do a party a week b4 or after those big productions.

couple of monitors and a bad dj?wtf?borris please stop to promote this "the bigger the better" agenda.i think those small orgenizers deserve a little bit more respect from you!

once again:im asking not to show it like i came here to throw shit on some org's.

the fact that you(opus and borris)defende your self only prove my point.

"al rosh haganav boer hakova"           Always agressive never progressive.
Morbidelic
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Posted : Aug 5, 2005 11:47
Ammmmm


When u saying Underground and tell me that 3d empire and doof and anynames here is undergroung

i just can tell u this is not an underground party

cause 600 ppl dancing in 1 party its not so underground,maby they bring nice ppl that smile dance and bring with them good energies but for me underground party its a litlle party in 100% open air green as well and the org bring pretty less crowd i mean something about 130-150 ppl and most of them good ppl this is underground without the sms party promo fhone numbers etc etc..!!

in israel 2day u got litlle bit org that working like that but u got and when u will be in of this parties bro u will get what ppl here trying to tell
u

thats for now

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Oran
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Posted : Aug 5, 2005 11:57
@Morbidelic

1st of all i dont think the size of the party is what counts if a party is underground or not.

2nd. doof doesent make a 600 ppl parties for a long time now.not even 400ppl.

imo.getting to a underground party isnt seppose to be easy.its something you seppose to work hard for and earn.

thats how it use to b. today u just log in to a website or forum.get the infoline number you have all the info you need.sorry thats to easy and not fun to me.

wheres the hard work?where is the surprise?

and most importent where is the feeling that you are going to a special event that not all the god damn country knows about?
          Always agressive never progressive.
OpuS
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Posted : Aug 5, 2005 12:04
"al rosh haganav boer hakova" ???

Oran, you have a little problem of listening to other opinions.

tha fact that I have a strong opinion in that matter & that its far different then yours doesnt say I defend myselfe in any way nor that you're right.

even though my events are small (~200-300 ppl) its still important to me to bring good artists (local & from abroad) the best sound system etc'. and you can guess yourself what's my profit from that, and so does to my intentions.

p.s - I allso got an sms last malana party & so does more than 1000 ppl. stop petronizing.           Follow the footsteps ...

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Opus (Eli)
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Posted : Aug 5, 2005 12:05
[quote]
On 2005-08-05 11:44, oran(m.p) wrote:
[quote]
once again:im asking not to show it like i came here to throw shit on some org's.
Quote:

the fact that you(opus and borris)defende your self only prove my point.

"al rosh haganav boer hakova"



thats is yours mistake we are not come to defend ourself, we came to expelain to you our viwe!!!
oren im sure that your mean is for onlly good but it came to something difrent!

"al rosh haganav boer hakova"-good one!!!


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OpuS
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Posted : Aug 5, 2005 12:11
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wheres the hard work?where is the surprise?

and most importent where is the feeling that you are going to a special event that not all the god damn country knows about?



Hard work ???
are we talking about going to a party to have fun ? ppl have jobs - ppl work. they do it to get money - the party thing is to relax / feel free / release energies & tentions.

you want to feel special ? ask your girlfriend to throw you a special party just for you. but it still wont be fun, cuase you didnt work hard for that.

Common .......           Follow the footsteps ...

Senka tribe
Oran
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Posted : Aug 5, 2005 12:20
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On 2005-08-05 12:04, OpuS wrote:
p.s - I allso got an sms last malana party & so does more than 1000 ppl. stop petronizing.



you know damn good that it wasn't my party m8.

if you'll read my posts again you will see that i didnt say that sms parties=$$$ parties or that big events are less good than small ones or that if you promote your events on the internet that means you are doing it for $$$.

take the last week dagaladan party for exemple.many prog ppl and many other ppl that should knew about it didnt(thanks for some isramembers that knew to shut up about it.u know who u are)and thats what i call to make the maximum to have the best party/crowd)after all if some good ppl doesent know about it.how will the arsim know about it?

im sorry im starting to sounds like handa hear (j/k m8) but for the 1000 time.:

i just dont like it when ppl call themselfs "underground" when they are not.

it doesent make them or the parties less or more good.

thats it.

          Always agressive never progressive.
OpuS
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Posted : Aug 5, 2005 12:48
You still have that M.P next to your name dont you ?

as i said before - there are different definitions to the word UNDERGROUND than yours. some ppl see it defferent .           Follow the footsteps ...

Senka tribe
psy^soldier
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Posted : Aug 5, 2005 13:05
oran mp
today u just log in to a website or forum.get the infoline number you have all the info you need.sorry thats to easy and not fun to me.

wheres the hard work?where is the surprise?

I agree with that
Oran
IsraTrance Team

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Posted : Aug 5, 2005 13:06
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On 2005-08-05 12:48, OpuS wrote:
You still have that M.P next to your name dont you ?

as i said before - there are different definitions to the word UNDERGROUND than yours. some ppl see it defferent .




so fucking what?it wasnt my party and you know that damn god.not that i have any problem with it but evryone who knows me a little knows that i will never promote my party on the internet or make a party in a wedding garden.

who have a diffrent definition?some ppl?or some orgenizers?

again,how convenient.

maybe its time for someone to shout,the king is naked.           Always agressive never progressive.
psy^soldier
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Posted : Aug 5, 2005 13:06
mabey there are some levels of underground :]
OpuS
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Posted : Aug 5, 2005 13:30
Will go on with it on sunday, dont have much time for that right now           Follow the footsteps ...

Senka tribe
huga_generation
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Posted : Aug 5, 2005 18:20
i dont write here very much latly but opus i think u dont get the point,
for example... the twins parties never used sms maybe there was a mail but only at the end of their period they never made more than 3-4 parties a summer and tha's how smaller productions actually had a shut to exist so did also Itzik(r.i.p)&david that imo made the best parties ever in israel.
what i wanna say is not that i have a problem with sms websites busses trains airplains to the party or whatever, dont wanna say it's not a good party( i agree the empire have exellent parties) JUST DONT CALL IT UNDERGROUND!!
peace ppl.
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THE-ORACLE
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Posted : Aug 5, 2005 23:12
People who organize parties do it for a living, they waste their time, energy sweat & tears to make a party good (not every org but the good ones do).... if they had the whole "whoever needs to know will know mentality" they would lose big money.... and if I invest money in a party and work hard for it I for sure don't want to lose money (no sense huh?)
there for "whoever needs to know will know mentality" doesn't work in Israel...you will have 100 - 200 people who paid 50-70 nis each, which obviously won't even cover the cost of making a party... if that's what you want then make a party yourself... times changed and so should you... stop living 10 years ago...if you want an old school party make one...other then that please shut your trap.

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huga_generation
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Posted : Aug 6, 2005 00:34
been there done that(and not so long ago) and i gues i'll do it again some time in the future, if i dont like the presidant it means that antil i wont run for elections myself i dont get the right to vote??? think about what u say mate it has not much since ....           Bottom Line Presents
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