makus
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Posted : Feb 24, 2011 14:14
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On 2011-02-20 17:06, PoM wrote:
i make all my kicks with zebra since some time, from teckish 808 kicks to psy kick ,the self oscillating xml filter and msg envelop are dope, sound better than ultrabeat or bazzism or everyhting else i used for sine pitched psy kicks.
just tried and all i can say is HUGE THANKS BRO!
envolpes are so tight and fast. sure will research more into it www.overdreamstudio.com
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Posted : Feb 24, 2011 15:05
too bad i dont like the oscillator of this synth as much as the xml filters and mseg !
for kicks really carefull tweaking is needed on the mseg amount and how high is the attack point ,the decay point and curve and sustain point,(the first dont need to be very high ,and the decay point dont need to be on the lowest position) you can use the snap fonction to keep them in tune but it s not a must. it can go to complete shit kicks to kicks that can make it to released track wiht almost no processing but the sweet spots can be hard to find at first.but yes kick can be way more cleaner and puncy than bazzism and as good as utlrabeat or better (the highs can saturate on ub while in zebra it s cleaner and you have more control with the click setting,this is set too high on ub or my taste and there is no way you can change it.)
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Posted : Mar 16, 2011 23:21
btw there is a drum bank somewhere on the net (don t know the url with all the zerba banks but it s there) and wow there is some great programing this synth is so flexible ...
listened few patchs the other day ,some really good stuff .check it guys if you haven t already.
Nectarios
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Posted : Mar 17, 2011 13:48
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On 2011-02-24 15:05, PoM wrote:
and as good as utlrabeat or better (the highs can saturate on ub while in zebra it s cleaner and you have more control with the click setting,this is set too high on ub or my taste and there is no way you can change it.)
You can change everything about the click when making kicks in UB. You have various parameters for doing so, select the top/start frequency from where the sine will sweep, the envelope that will let you make anything from a really tight 808 kick to the old lazer like goa kick and everything in between and then you also have the asym parameter to "shimer" up the click and go into electro kick territory. Look into it some more, its all there.
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Posted : Mar 18, 2011 02:45
was thinking to a paramater on zebra filter that change a bit the self oscillating behavior , it can give a smooth to harder attack on kick it can be usefull.
but yes i like a lot ultrabeat , it give great result in not time , while in zebra more tweaking is needed but it s very good too,you can get similar kicks on both.
zebra can be a very good drum synth too .
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Posted : Mar 18, 2011 09:46
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On 2011-03-16 23:21, PoM wrote:
btw there is a drum bank somewhere on the net (don t know the url with all the zerba banks but it s there) and wow there is some great programing this synth is so flexible ...
listened few patchs the other day ,some really good stuff .check it guys if you haven t already.
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Posted : Mar 18, 2011 13:28
How about a little tutorial for creating Kicks with Zebra?
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Posted : Mar 18, 2011 17:32
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Here we go with a couple of kick patches that i've done with different techniques (Cosmosis 909 and selfresonating XMF driven by MSEG).
Remember that are not ready to go but can be useful sketches to design your own or to understand some things.
Here you find 2 kind of kicks done with Zebra, so you can dissect the patch.
And here you find an old video:
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Posted : Mar 18, 2011 19:45
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On 2011-03-16 23:21, PoM wrote:
btw there is a drum bank somewhere on the net (don t know the url with all the zerba banks but it s there) and wow there is some great programing this synth is so flexible ...
listened few patchs the other day ,some really good stuff .check it guys if you haven t already.
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Posted : Mar 18, 2011 19:50
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How about a little tutorial for creating Kicks with Zebra?
tbh its so much about taste that i m not sure it would be usefull ,but check ohshit patchs or/and follow what i wrote above from a innit patch and tweak to your taste,all the bases are there.
tweaking the kick & bassline synths and their processing chain to sound great toghter is a big advantage, it really depends about the bassline too, it make me think a tutorial should cover both and not only kick or bassline .
loki
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Posted : Mar 19, 2011 21:44
thank you both PoM and ohshit.
i honestly think a lot of my kicks from now on will be made with zebra or another soft synth in this way. Dance, even if you have nowhere to do it but your living room. ~Kurt Vonnegut
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Posted : Apr 1, 2011 23:35
I really like zebra for some kinds of sounds, especially for making percussion synths, and some times leads.
It´s different layout, flexibillity, the routing possibillitys and automation way suits me.
