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TimeTraveller
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Posted : Apr 5, 2016 21:25:22

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=460687&p=6430695

The sound is very analogue. It is extremely cpu hungry due to this sound. The bad thing is there is no Amp ADSR as far as I have tried it out. They concentrate on those great filters. Maybe there is a workaround with some additonal adsr env plug in on the insert or some other way to use it.
          https://soundcloud.com/shivagarden/cosmotropics
frisbeehead
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Posted : Apr 8, 2016 20:04
I think the final version may actually be worth it, as pretty much everything coming out of Uhe's labs, but this one is severely cpu hungry, since it runs all the filters in parallel so that testers wouldn't base their opinions on the cpu-hit of the filter models - I've read this on KVR forum.

At least for me, this renders the plugin virtually unusable unless it's just for resampling duties so far. I'm guessing the cpu hit will dramatically decrease for the final version, and an amp envelope is certainly to be included If this manages to sound anywhere close to the real thing, and it seems like it will, with such a simple architecture, it dispenses a manual, it's just pure fun from the get go.

On another note, this test has served to prove some points which are a bit interesting, also from KVR forum:

one of the filters implemented here works at a sample rate so high it's said to overcome the limitations of conventional (I mean, non ZDF) digital filters, but still failed to do so - based on the feedback from users; and would require just as much if not more computer power. user feedback confirms this.

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Posted : Apr 9, 2016 19:00
does the filter do self oscillation?
frisbeehead
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Posted : Apr 10, 2016 17:09
^yes
TimeTraveller
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Posted : Apr 16, 2016 16:13
great video from Psilocybian/ RePro







btw I often have seen this LFO from Max Audio that you can assign to each parameter of any other plug in, when in same channel. I have same thing but in native feathers in Renoise but would like to have such plug in in Cubase too.
Does anyone own this tool? How does it work, do you need to buy some Max Audio licence or some programm in order to but that lfo. Like Reaktor for many other tools? Does anyone use this LFO in Cubase? I need it badly in Cubase. Or some other that work like that.           https://soundcloud.com/shivagarden/cosmotropics
frisbeehead
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Posted : Apr 16, 2016 19:00
I don't think there's any way to make max stuff work in Cubase. Not that I'm aware off, I think it's an Ableton thing only - and one of its strongest points.

However, take a look at this:

http://www.cableguys.com/midi-shaper.html

It doesn't get any better then this, I think
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Posted : Apr 16, 2016 20:05
interesting link... I scan it now looks good.           https://soundcloud.com/shivagarden/cosmotropics
frisbeehead
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Posted : Apr 20, 2016 18:16
slightly out of topic here (beg your pardon) but also check this out:

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/oct13/articles/cubase-1013.htm

there's plenty that can be done with the included stuff on Cubase that's all to easy to overlook.
TimeTraveller
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Posted : Apr 20, 2016 20:29
Wow, that's powerful! Thanks a ton for this link mate           https://soundcloud.com/shivagarden/cosmotropics
TimeTraveller
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Posted : Apr 21, 2016 21:31
It makes good fun to compose melodies through patterns with the method via Step Designer.

Saving some self created patterns and than automating the pattern selection opens new ways.
Just could not fix the other Continous Controller, to select the right ones Numbers and make a working pattern for it too. Would be nice to automate a pan with a better detailed pattern(s) or something else. Don't know what Number stand for what Parameter and where to find that numbers, read retrologue manual as I try to learn this method on it and nothing to find there.
Still good fun with it           https://soundcloud.com/shivagarden/cosmotropics
frisbeehead
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Posted : Apr 22, 2016 23:41
CC#10 is usually the pan, it's a standard that one

I also find it a bit weird why such normal info isn't more readily available myself, tbh.

On Retrologue you can do it all with the mod matrix though, both for that and note expression.
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Posted : Apr 23, 2016 01:52
you can do it well nice with Halion SE - Parameter 71 is Cut Off and 74 is Resonance.. and from 70 to 80 are the big knobs. This works like it should, all knobs move then as you write data to step designer. Unfortunately all other synth bh all other in Cubase don't work like that. Don't know why.
And yeah! Pan I also found it out quite quickly, pan works as you say. This is a standardized midi value for pan (as well as for alot of others), I think it is always 10 - in each synth. This is a nice way to make pan automation via step designer. Still would be much nicer if it works on other snyth, for instance retrologue or would be too dope on Bazille. Would be dope to automate an lfo(s) this way etc.
Note expressions,I must say I still didn't got it until now. Do you use note expression?
          https://soundcloud.com/shivagarden/cosmotropics
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Posted : Apr 23, 2016 17:19
..just one more thing to step designer/ matrix. Matrix is cool and I always use it (without note expression), but via Step Desinger you can create up to 200 patterns... and this is the special thing imo. By making a few patterns and change rythms or speeds of data one can make much more detailed and complex movements imo and than just automate the parameter pattern select and a simple pan can get much more interesting I think.           https://soundcloud.com/shivagarden/cosmotropics
frisbeehead
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Posted : Apr 25, 2016 21:49
I see what you mean

I mentioned the matrix because you can actually select some of those parameters as sources. The step sequencer will also be able to pick those up. And yeah, note expression is a very nice thing. Gives you a lot of precise control on a note to note basis, and I'm really starting to appreciate it a lot. Retrologue is the one I've been using for such experiments, along with some PadShop.

It's so good in fact, that normal midi starts to feel limited afterwards.
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