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Twisted Label needs your help!!
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supergroover
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Posted : Oct 30, 2009 11:27
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twisted is afaik not doing the bookings. So you ll be directed to the actual booking agency.
A friend of mine tried to do a twisted night in Amsterdam but that is pretty much impossible now because all artists have different agencies now. |
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frambonas
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Posted : Oct 30, 2009 14:41
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Much respect for the guys, but i don't totally agree..
They should adapt a long time ago, since records sales is not giving big profits for years. (even for big artist)
If you are populair like them, earn money with live shows instead of records sales. |
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hip
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Posted : Oct 30, 2009 15:45
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frambonas, a record label can't perform live shows.
Artist can, and that's how they make for a living.
But the labels rely only on sales, and if the sales are low, labels are shutting down.
And if the labels are shutting down, artist have no place to release their music.
But I agree with you that they have to adapt to modern times, maybe with digital sales of their music or something.
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Vlip Psyde
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Posted : Oct 30, 2009 16:08
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Ok, my apologies for the wrong assumption, mquirk1. I'm happy to hear that you are a true music-lover, buying stuff from artists who deserve it. Once again, I'm sorry. Point I was trying to make is that unfortunately, there are a lot of people out there who think like that... :-/ And for most of them, it will be a reason not to buy stuff.
And yea, see the posts above about the booking agency things.. Don't know what to add to them.
Although I also agree that they need to adapt somehow. Digital FLAC sales might be coming up... |
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frambonas
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Posted : Oct 30, 2009 17:17
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On 2009-10-30 15:45, hip wrote:
frambonas, a record label can't perform live shows.
Artist can, and that's how they make for a living.
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yes, but they should make bookings for there artist and get a percentage...like my label does..
albums these days are more like promotion for the live shows to get more bookings, even for the big guys.
And i also think that's not fair, guys like Simon Phosfort should not struggle for there music....but it is like it is...
Or you should make more commercial music... 
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Shiranui
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Posted : Oct 30, 2009 19:00
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On 2009-10-30 15:45, hip wrote:
But the labels rely only on sales, and if the sales are low, labels are shutting down.
And if the labels are shutting down, artist have no place to release their music. |
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Why is a record label necessary in order to release music?
Compose, produce, master, output to .wav and post it online. It is released! |
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Freeflow
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Posted : Oct 30, 2009 19:41
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The problem is that its all about money!
How many release are these artists going to do? man start writing your music on sheets instead!
readin all these pages concerning money just makes me sick! yeah we all need money to survive!
And if we cant get it we have to steal or prostitute or do some other dodgy business..
If you want to make money there are a lot of money to make! but money wont give you good music as some of you people argue... i wont buy that, i say poor people makes the best music, a alcoholic roman guitarist plays more emotional than those Cocaine heads on ibiza!!
This Scene is about the people, like in that youtube clip where people play drums, guitar, sing and play the flute... chilling in the sun, having a good time...
IF they cultivated the land they could do that all days!
But yeah you need a certain amount of money to pay rent, eat and have money to raise kids... There are other work if you dont have a business mind...
music is a way of life something you do even if you dont get money or not... if you want to be around it you can... you can study music all life, play gigs everywhere you can, if you show you have the will power to do something you can do it.....
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Shuma
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Posted : Oct 30, 2009 20:44
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It's true that you don't need a label to release music, but I prefer releasing through labels.
In fact, when I'm searching for new music, I first check out my favorite labels, then my favorite artists.
I like having record labels, because they can make artist's life much easier (like focusing only on music). Of course, there are labels that can make your life a living hell, but that's another topic. I'm quite sure Twisted isn't one of them.
That's just my opinion, of course, I respect other people's attitudes toward this issue.
As for labels getting the percentage from artist's gigs, that's ok too - but I think it usually happens if you have an exclusive contract with the label.
How's your experience with this, frambonas?
I mean, if you don't have an album out, but 15 Eps on 15 different labels, which one will take the percentage?
Anyway, the bottom line for me is that people should pay for music.
If Simon Posford took a year of his time to make this album, I think it's worth 15€. No matter how much he charges for the liveset.
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SkyBluGoa
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Posted : Oct 30, 2009 21:25
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Just ordered 5 CDs 
I don't know, but I've been told, if you keep on dancing you won't grow old. |
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flavius
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Posted : Oct 31, 2009 05:07
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what i'm really worried about is that if labels don't get enough money -> production quality (and quantity) goes down -> no more amazing albums.
sure, artists can pay out of their own pocket, but that's not sustainable. when you look at a shpongle album (ott as well) the amount of layers can get ridiculous - acoustics, vocals, all done by paid musicians (on top of synths and so on). could an independent artist really afford to put together a production of that quality? i honestly don't think so.
twisted =/= laptop with logic. |
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V3NOM
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Posted : Oct 31, 2009 08:36
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It is sad to see Twsited like this BUT they have such a small roster of regular musicians, a tiny amount of releases and a style that I think would be rather hard to market outside of this scene.
I reckon it puts a lot ofpressure on said musicians to constantly release music at a more than high standard.
Twisted probably need to look at making some commercial money, and if this means selling their underground psy soul for a bit then so be it.
Also, when there's a global economic crisis as there has/is now, the entertainment industry is always going to get hit hard becuase for most people it is not even a vague neccesity and undergournd labels and muso' will get hit the hardest.
Good luck Twisted and I hope it work out for you!
I hate you, you hate me, we are all so hap hap happy! |
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braininavat
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Posted : Oct 31, 2009 15:23
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On 2009-10-22 21:43, Xolvexs wrote:
only if you take me seriously for a change i can email those interested in seeing the model that i have created already for an EDM/IDM Fund- venture capital.
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I do financial modeling, but I assume your talking a business plan more than a model?
If you PM I will take a look at it. Although one obvious problem is that venture capital as an investment tends to focus on high risk ventures with incredible potential upside..
This whole thing is a bit close to my heart as Simon H djed at the first party I went to but I really dont see the upside to make this a worthwhile investment. The best case scenario is they are simply able to sustain themselves and there are so many good investments right now its hard to see how anyone with a brain will invest in this.
Hate to say it, but if anything its quite amazing Twisted has lasted as long as it did..
Nothing lasts... |
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V3NOM
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Posted : Nov 2, 2009 06:55
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monno
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Posted : Nov 2, 2009 07:25
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Elad
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Posted : Nov 2, 2009 15:01
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lol... if its real they can stuff this dvd up their... 300$?? must be typo , or joke.
but really , i dont knoiw single label that doesnt need your help. support your favorite artists isnt something new?? but sure you aint care and also not buying cds from anyone so i dont see twisted so different.
did you forget most magor classic favorite goa labels allready closed anyhow? for about 5 years or so?
www.sattelbattle.com
http://yoavweinberg.weebly.com/ |
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