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Twisted Label needs your help!!

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Kiriyama

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Posted : Oct 25, 2009 22:29
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On 2009-10-25 15:04, mquirk1 wrote:

apparently it's 50,000 euros

http://ia310842.us.archive.org/GnuBook/GnuBookImages.php?zip=/2/items/Shpongle_Live_contract_AUS/Shpongle_Performance_Invoice_jp2.zip&file=Shpongle_Performance_Invoice_jp2/Shpongle_Performance_Invoice_0000.jp2&scale=4&rotate=0

from what i've herad hallucinogen live is like 20,000-25,000+euros



If I remember correctly, Simon posted on the Twisted forum saying they were offered that deal - an offer they couldn't refuse - but it all turned out to be a scam. The promoter made off with the revenue from selling presale tickets to an event that was never going to happen.
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Ott^
OTT

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Posted : Oct 26, 2009 00:21
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On 2009-10-25 15:04, mquirk1 wrote:
from what i've herad hallucinogen live is like 20,000-25,000+euros



And if you believe that then I have a bridge for sale that you may be interested in.
A.Rosengren
Solid Snake

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Posted : Oct 26, 2009 00:56
It's not possible for Twisted Records to gain a 5% share of the artists gig fee's? It won't turn the ship around but it would go in the right direction.

Skip a stroboscope, save twisted records!

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Basilisk
IsraTrance Full Member

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Posted : Oct 26, 2009 01:07
A few years back I wrote to Coast II Coast asking about Simon's fees and they responded by saying "you probably couldn't even afford his first-class ticket."
mquirk1
IsraTrance Full Member

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Posted : Oct 26, 2009 09:28
Quote:

On 2009-10-26 00:21, Ott^ wrote:
Quote:

On 2009-10-25 15:04, mquirk1 wrote:
from what i've herad hallucinogen live is like 20,000-25,000+euros



And if you believe that then I have a bridge for sale that you may be interested in.



so what is it then? that's the area i was indicated by someone who actually booked him.. may have been talking Au dollars tho
Axis Mundi
Axis Mundi

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Posted : Oct 26, 2009 10:02
One time I was listening to Younger Brother's Myspace page player, and I left a comment saying, "You guys are awesome! What would it take to get you guys to come to Asheville?" In less than 5 minutes I got an e-mail from them saying, "A good promoter and a lot of money."
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IsraTrance Full Member

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Posted : Oct 26, 2009 10:12
^ maybe because of 4 or 5 plane tickets, hotels and traveling expenses?           "The dedication to repetition — the search for nirvana in a single held tone or an endlessly cycling rhythm — is one of electronic music's noblest gestures."
TimeTraveller
IsraTrance Full Member

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Posted : Oct 26, 2009 11:04
so this should be the reason why I never saw Hallucinogen on any flyer in Germany along all this long years..

And what about all the loyal fans?

I think many made him known as well as his music of course.At least the ones who bought his materials.

Hard to understand.          https://soundcloud.com/shivagarden
Xolvexs
IsraTrance Senior Member

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Posted : Oct 26, 2009 11:24
performance-$100,000
light & sound-$20,000
Entrance fee- $40
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Suloo
IsraTrance Full Member

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Posted : Oct 26, 2009 13:18
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On 2009-10-26 11:04, TimeTraveller wrote:
so this should be the reason why I never saw Hallucinogen on any flyer in Germany along all this long years..





he played @ Fullmoon 2007 and i dont believe that Chris spent that much money..if so he has to be millionare cause along with Hallucinogen there played Astrix and alot other big names..           -------......-------...-..-..-..-.-.-.-.-
TimeTraveller
IsraTrance Full Member

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Posted : Oct 26, 2009 15:06
So I missed that. I see I saw him once in december 98 or so in another state in altona but am not 100% sure and there was no life act.Well I wanted always to expirience 'his sound' life.           https://soundcloud.com/shivagarden
mquirk1
IsraTrance Full Member

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Posted : Oct 26, 2009 15:25
i think people underestimate how much the really big artists get for their set fees.. granted i haven't heard any exact figures, tho plenty of indications of the 'range' they get. but playing in a band in our local scene and knowing how much some of the bigger local bands get..

just as an example a local band i know here in melbourne that formed in 2005, have released one cd on one of the indie labels here, sold ok but not amazingly well, and are pretty much unknown outside of australia. their set fee? $20,000. and just as example the last show they played the venue they sold out is the exact same one i've seen hallucinogen at and sell out..

hallucinogen's first album sold what, something like 85,000 copies? and a shitload more for the second one, and is a pretty massive name internationally. granted he hasn't done anything recently under that name, but still can obviously price himself pretty damn high.

i hardly ever see him on international linups tho, and whether that's because he's just too expensive or whether he just doesn't like touring.. but i'm sure if he gigged around a bit more and put some of that money into twisted they'd be doing a lot better.
mquirk1
IsraTrance Full Member

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Posted : Oct 26, 2009 15:34
http://www.myspace.com/astrixmusic

check out astrix's touring schedule. and hallucinogen? no shows listed on his myspace/facebook or twisted website at all..

Basilisk
IsraTrance Full Member

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Posted : Oct 26, 2009 15:40
Kevin Kelly's article "Better Than Free" is essential reading for anyone interested in this topic:
http://www.kk.org/thetechnium/archives/2008/01/better_than_fre.php

In short, sell something that can't be copied.
Vlip Psyde


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Posted : Oct 26, 2009 23:23
Still, Simon Posford's touring schedule and his fees have nothing to do with the financial situation of the Twisted label. If Simon P gets money for a Hallucinogen set, it doesn't help Simon H and the Twisted label much.

So I don't really see how the discussion of Simon P's fees contributes to this topic.

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