willsanquil
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Posted : Nov 14, 2013 00:08
neat. ezpz to do in ableton. add audio effect rack, insert chain, duplicate chain, insert utility effect with phz-L and R both enabled then tweak volume.
got a nice effect with a simple auto pan after the utility on the inverted chain
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Posted : Nov 14, 2013 01:04
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On 2013-11-11 20:01, woodster77 wrote:
would also work on old bucket brigade delays give the a low roll of instead of high roll off
you sure mate ? doubt it would work ,will give it a try, but don t really understand how it could happen
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Posted : Nov 14, 2013 02:10
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On 2013-11-14 00:08, willsanquil wrote:
neat. ezpz to do in ableton. add audio effect rack, insert chain, duplicate chain, insert utility effect with phz-L and R both enabled then tweak volume.
got a nice effect with a simple auto pan after the utility on the inverted chain
cheers
This is with an externally-triggered gate on the inverted chain, yes?
willsanquil
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Posted : Nov 14, 2013 02:33
nope, no externally triggered gate, just an audio rack with one regular chain and one inverted chain.
I get the expected behavior of no sound when both are at the same volume level and different filtering type effects when volume is changed.
andddd you're not missing anything. I did an A/B of this entire (inverted and autopan)+regular rack vs just an Autopan set to the same settings and its the same thing.
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Posted : Nov 14, 2013 13:11
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On 2013-11-14 01:04, PoM wrote:
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On 2013-11-11 20:01, woodster77 wrote:
would also work on old bucket brigade delays give the a low roll of instead of high roll off
you sure mate ? doubt it would work ,will give it a try, but don t really understand how it could happen
try it with Driver, now get hipass angry fx module.... not sure bout the delay ,only theory as i dont got one in hardware and am not near my music pc. so no way to try it out.
would be nice if folksa stuck some audio up to match results, see if all the bother is worth it for the result
my main jolly with this trick is the fact thst when used on hardware all the origional controls are applied so no need for assigning stuff,
ive found it usefull in the modular aspect to work round some limitations ,ie vactrol filters that cant really handle audio rate modulation, with this technique you can get around this as there are no componants slowing the mod down.
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Posted : Nov 14, 2013 15:33
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On 2013-11-14 13:11, woodster77 wrote:
you sure mate ? doubt it would work ,will give it a try, but don t really understand how it could happen
my main jolly with this trick is the fact thst when used on hardware all the origional controls are applied so no need for assigning stuff,
ive found it usefull in the modular aspect to work round some limitations ,ie vactrol filters that cant really handle audio rate modulation, with this technique you can get around this as there are no componants slowing the mod down.
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i can't see past the phase cancelation ducking effect - which is good as an alternative to regular sidechain, in the sense you don't have to set up a compressor for each channel/group, and behaves/sounds a lot different. and maybe some odd sounding effects.
about panning: there was a thread here once that suggested you can like M/S decode stuff by using phase cancelation (doubles panned in opposite directions and volume pairs) instead of a M/S code/decode plug-in. is that what people are talking about here?
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Posted : Nov 15, 2013 15:13
nice example of someone using a buchla music easel for the quasi hi pass filter trick
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