TSA Begginers Guide to psy production: comment , add , learn , and share

On 2009-10-05 02:51, psypersia wrote:
hello
thanks for this topic elad
but to adjust this stuff you said which plugin we should use?

On 2009-10-05 03:20, Elad wrote:

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On 2009-10-05 02:51, psypersia wrote: hello thanks for this topic elad but to adjust this stuff you said which plugin we should use?

anything really
basicly its for single saw osc or maybe one combined with sine.
you can test it on vb1 'synth bass' preset , or alien 303 basses.


for eq u can use FL eq2 , voxengo gliss , i prefer those with the spectrum analizer build-in so you also see what you do and understand it inside out

On 2009-10-05 05:28, psypersia wrote:

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On 2009-10-05 03:20, Elad wrote: Quote: On 2009-10-05 02:51, psypersia wrote: hello thanks for this topic elad but to adjust this stuff you said which plugin we should use? anything really basicly its for single saw osc or maybe one combined with sine. you can test it on vb1 'synth bass' preset , or alien 303 basses. for eq u can use FL eq2 , voxengo gliss , i prefer those with the spectrum analizer build-in so you also see what you do and understand it inside out

hey elad that was great i used the FL eq2 completely changed the sound...
ur the best man

On 2009-10-06 18:05, Ascension wrote:
You don't always need to be notching your bass notes at their fundamental. I've never done it that way and my bass has always sounded good. Work on making it sound good with envelope parameters first, then eq only if necessary.

On 2009-10-07 07:28, jizy wrote:

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On 2009-10-06 18:05, Ascension wrote: You don't always need to be notching your bass notes at their fundamental. I've never done it that way and my bass has always sounded good. Work on making it sound good with envelope parameters first, then eq only if necessary.

I do mate, i spend atleast an hour tweaking my bass synth... Velosity-volume-env bla bla..
It's just that elad mentioned about notches, I dint mean notch out the fundimentle anyways I was talking about the harmonics and how many DBS should the subs be

On 2009-10-01 09:14, Saii wrote:
hey elad!
i really appreciate what your doing here!
i was wondering if you could give me a hand with how you made those sick loops that you posted up here
like i wanna know how to make my own loops...do you use redrum in reason what do you use to make hat loops or FX loops stuff like that!
thanks man!

On 2009-10-10 01:23, Elad wrote:
.....replicunt......

On 2009-10-10 01:23, Elad wrote:

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On 2009-10-01 09:14, Saii wrote: hey elad! i really appreciate what your doing here! i was wondering if you could give me a hand with how you made those sick loops that you posted up here like i wanna know how to make my own loops...do you use redrum in reason what do you use to make hat loops or FX loops stuff like that! thanks man!

lesson 2

Create Your Own Drum & Percussion Loops (or small changes big difference)

so lets make our kit first
for drums i use the following:

closed hihat
open hihat
sometimes third hihat for variation
snare
perc-snare *rim
crash cymbal
splash cymbal
(do i sound like the dude from 'this is rocknroll' video lol)

for percussion , any "set" would work
tabla
darbuka
bongo
congo
tom tom
click's and tuktuk's (legendary minimal tech 808 good possibility)

always nice to morph sounds to be 'like' one of the kit.. like laser instead of open hihat or something.. be creative..

so.. lets first start with drums
basic pattern in the track is
1/16 running close hihat (electronic sense)
off-beat open hihat (complete the other hihat)
snare every 2nd and 4th beat (just like in reak music)
rim as 'snare helper' to make it abit more groovy

offcourse many variations to this loop , like have the snares on 1st and 3rd beat to build more tension , get the open hihat to be on the beat and stuff like this..
you can also 'think like' drummer for making the hihats as if you were playing it (linking to midi controller and recording in half time helps)

now for percussion , lets make some kind of sense , if we try to imitate percussion section we need first thing to think of panning:
some hits come from the left hand and some from the right , good to make that as general guide for the panoramic map.

also if using more then 1 of the kits then you can have 1 in left one in right (no need to go 100% here)

so good example would be prog trance who made their trademark on the wiggle rythm , lets make sure everybody knows this one:
1--2--3-1--2--3-
the 1 hit is optional , also you can move that hole pattern 1/16th back of forth (also 1/8 to 'reverse' the groove)
(you can play with this rythm to get fullon cheese bass too when making all the notes in the root and only make melody with the 'wiggle notes')


allrighty then , so we have the loops now its time for the small changes

lets go back to the drum loop , have each drum on his own channel.
add reverb in aux channel
send the snare with 0% to the reverb
now make automation for the reverb to go up (the %) in saw shape up for 16 kicks and then looping back to 0% (popular techno trick)
lets try to send the open hihat to delay channel (again as aux) and send random notes to that delay.. allready getting nicer color to the loop here..
for the percussion always indeed nice to 'reverse' the groove by moving the loop back 1/8 after some time its playing and get monotonic
also some of those hits can send to the aux to get it more alive.

for the closed hihats i like to glitch them alot with edit work as well glitch plugins (effectrix , dbglitch , replicunt , livecut etc)
offcourse editing the outcome and mixing it alot with the dry channel.. but thats great quick way to get awsome rythms.

so.. hope you enjoy any qustion is welcome