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Tryin to make a better bass with Z3ta+ but....:(

Fomenth
Fomenth

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Posted : Sep 5, 2006 17:41
I am tryin to make the "Skazi" type bass....

Can anybody tell me which preset, through Z3ta+ Waveshaping Synthesizer VST, to use and what settings to do in order to archive that....?

Z3ta+ is best for bass types but i can't find the "Skazi" bass sound.....

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PoM
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Posted : Sep 5, 2006 17:49
i don t know with zeta,with a sampler ,it ll be more easy
Fomenth
Fomenth

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Posted : Sep 5, 2006 18:06
And how to do that? There is no sample of Skazi Bass in the Internet....           http://soundcloud.com/fomenth
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PoM
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Posted : Sep 5, 2006 18:06
or maybe sample the zeta but i m not sure it s the same sound.
PoM
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Posted : Sep 5, 2006 18:09
i don t know if the zeta is close enought but try to sample it if you like the sound,for 1/16 basslin with only one note it s often better to sample .check the mother of all bassline thread.
Freeflow
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Posted : Sep 5, 2006 23:56
Z3ta+ is great for those sawbasses.. very clean sound...

i dont remember how a typical skazi bass sounds..
but if you listen and have some experience you might be able to replicate it...
Domi
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Posted : Sep 6, 2006 00:26
make your own basses, don´t copy.

and don´t tell me you just want to learn from it.

you will feel much better if you have you´r own style one day.

all best mate

i.dot           https://soundcloud.com/twonzero-progressive/twonezero-alienpast-soon-on
Fomenth
Fomenth

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Posted : Sep 6, 2006 08:03
Quote:

On 2006-09-06 00:26, Domi wrote:
make your own basses, don´t copy.

and don´t tell me you just want to learn from it.

you will feel much better if you have you´r own style one day.

all best mate

i.dot




I just to get the sound mate..this is copy?

Most psy-artist have the same sound in their basslines anyways...
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Fomenth
Fomenth

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Posted : Sep 6, 2006 08:08
If anyone knows how to get the Skazi Bass sound with Z3ta+....just tell me....

Either with presets or with appropriate settings.......           http://soundcloud.com/fomenth
http://www.myspace.com/fomenth
Domi
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Posted : Sep 6, 2006 13:27
@fomenth

sure..you´re totally right go on.           https://soundcloud.com/twonzero-progressive/twonezero-alienpast-soon-on
sideFXed
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Posted : Sep 6, 2006 16:26
You'll get your skazi bass sound right when your ears bleed of trying

nah seriously, I think only skazi and his production partners know.

There are so many parameters on a synth, I don't think you'll get a skazi bass synth preset, because only skazi can create one

But there's hope, you can create your own bass preset. Best way to do that is to reverse-engineer one as a beginner. Grab one of your favourite skazi-kill-o-matic tracks, grab a single bass sound out of it.

Now lock yourself in a dark room with fresh water and bread, your daw and lots of time. Take your favourite pir8 softsynth. Dial in an initial preset, disable the effect unit, disable every osc except one. Choose a saw wave, now try to recreate a sound that resembles fairly the sound you got from that skazi track... right, I hope you can follow to this point.

Now if you feel brave enough, activate the second osc again and give some pulsewidth. detune it slightly and use your ears. wow, now we should have a way fatter sound.

Eq the shit out of it, add compression so higher notes don't clip your meter. Use common sense for the loudness of the basssynth. It shouldn't be louder than the kick, although it can. Keep it mono, some use phase shifting on it... So many ways it's almost impossible to put it in a single post.

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e-motion
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Posted : Sep 6, 2006 16:38
try with the moog synths but i'm so not sure.           Pyrex :: Traveling without moving
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UnderTow


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Posted : Sep 6, 2006 18:44
Skazi bass: Alesis Andromeda through an Eventide Orville followed by a Cranesong STC-8, EQed with a TubeTech EQ 1A then it goes into a Cranesong HEDD and then a Lynx L22 into the computer.

Go and buy that gear. It only costs about 20.000$ When you have it I'll guide you through the settings.

Seriously though, I am getting fed-up with all these newbies wanting to have instant satisfaction and not actually making the effort to learn their equipment and learning how to make music.

If you don't like to spend hours and days and months tweaking untill you have the right sound, YOU SHOULD NOT EVEN ATTEMPT TO MAKE PSYTRANCE. This isn't for you. This isn't your calling. You will never be good let alone great. Sell your gear and start learning to knit or something.

Sheesh ...

UnderTow
Fomenth
Fomenth

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Posted : Sep 6, 2006 19:18
Quote:

On 2006-09-06 18:44, UnderTow wrote:
Skazi bass: Alesis Andromeda through an Eventide Orville followed by a Cranesong STC-8, EQed with a TubeTech EQ 1A then it goes into a Cranesong HEDD and then a Lynx L22 into the computer.

Go and buy that gear. It only costs about 20.000$ When you have it I'll guide you through the settings.

Seriously though, I am getting fed-up with all these newbies wanting to have instant satisfaction and not actually making the effort to learn their equipment and learning how to make music.

If you don't like to spend hours and days and months tweaking untill you have the right sound, YOU SHOULD NOT EVEN ATTEMPT TO MAKE PSYTRANCE. This isn't for you. This isn't your calling. You will never be good let alone great. Sell your gear and start learning to knit or something.

Sheesh ...

UnderTow



OK MASTER OF PSYTRANCE, UnderToW!!!!
whateeeeeeeeeeeeever........................

P.S: I didn't ask 4 the EXACT sound of Skazi bass but 4 the TYPE of Skazi bass!
U should go to a doctor my friend and get your eyes checked....




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Get-a-fix
Getafix

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Posted : Sep 6, 2006 19:19
Skazi bass?!

Highpass at 80hz for that killllaaaarrgggghhhh sound!!!           http://www.soundcloud.com/getafixmusic
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