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Posted : Feb 21, 2011 01:44:51
Anyone got any idea of making this??
listen from 0:09 till 0:42
how can you re-trigger a kick then change it's note true midi??
i am thinking, maybe load some sample to alchemy. then play it around. (no success yet)
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mac plugins would help,,,
ThAnKs!!!
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Posted : Feb 21, 2011 02:23
not sure if this is the best place to ask questions about about how commercial music like this is made. horrible shit if you ask me by the way.
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Posted : Feb 21, 2011 11:28
It doesnt matter what it sounds like. It 's the technique he wants to know. You can always use it in a cool way without all the lame vocals I wouldnt be surprised if it was in kontakt. There were some nice tutorials about kickrolls a while ago.
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Posted : Feb 21, 2011 12:41
Shorten sample length in real time. Oldest sampler trick in the book. I miss my old AKAI S1100 Record the shortened kick sample and assign it at the correct midi note, then follow keytrack and play the riff.
This is what's happening in the SHM clip. Nothing to do with re-triggering and pitch bends.
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Posted : Feb 21, 2011 17:37
thanks guys!!!
supergroover do you think that it is possible to play with the note of the triggerd pitch? i got the rool up quite good' but how do you change the note with midi?
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Posted : Feb 21, 2011 17:47
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On 2011-02-21 12:41, disco hooligans wrote:
Shorten sample length in real time. Oldest sampler trick in the book. I miss my old AKAI S1100 Record the shortened kick sample and assign it at the correct midi note, then follow keytrack and play the riff.
This is what's happening in the SHM clip. Nothing to do with re-triggering and pitch bends.
Peace out.
Can you recommend a good sampler for mac? that will change the midi in a smooth way?
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Posted : Feb 21, 2011 19:24
Any software sampler will do, actually, to be more precise, any DAW that will allow you to record the shortening of the end loop point of the sample, in real time, or automated, will do. I'm pretty sure you can do this in Logic using Logic's EXS24 native software sampler.
The important bit is to end at a correct note interval, i.e. when you finish decreasing the sample's end loop point, you will end up at a sound that has a distinct pitch....like the SHM clip. You need to identify the note of the pitch, assign it to the corresponding key of your midi controller and then spread the sample across as many octaves as you will need, making sure the sample is tracking the keyboard (as opposed to not tracking key notes for multi drum sound sampler patches) and make sure you have un-checked the "one shot" trigger parameter.
Make a loop point of the recorded sound so that you can sustain it as long as you want.
Then just play the riff.
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Posted : Feb 21, 2011 19:57
i think glitchs plugins will do that for you, stuff like live cut dblue glitch or the new izotope one maybe, i have oen in reaktor that i think could do that but i m not sure it can do it as good it s called buffeater , i doubt it s made in a sampler ,take too much time for todays producers
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Posted : Feb 21, 2011 21:54
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i think glitchs plugins will do that for you, stuff like live cut dblue glitch or the new izotope one maybe, i have oen in reaktor that i think could do that but i m not sure it can do it as good it s called buffeater , i doubt it s made in a sampler ,take too much time for todays producers
It doesn't take too much time.
And I can't speak for every glitch plug but I use LiveCut and you can't morph into this sound in such a controllable manner.
Try this simple process.
1) Open a soft sampler.
2) Drag and drop a kick sample (TR-808 kick for this example).
3) Set sample loop points at the start and end of the kick sample.
4) Trigger the loop.
5) Shorten the end loop point towards the start point in real time, up until you reach the start loop point.
I am positive that you will get the same result as pretty much any sample sounds like that when the end loop point, reaches the start point. I know this cause I was making the old Matrix "digital drowning voice" sounds with my old AKAI S1100 hardware sampler when I was learning it.
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Posted : Feb 22, 2011 01:33
got it with kontakt!!!!
yeaaaa!!
thanks everyone for the tip.
i know the big trick is to determine what note are you on but tis can be done easily by exporting the loop and checking it with spectrum analyser!
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Posted : Feb 22, 2011 14:05
i achieved the exact same sound (its no.1 hit at my work this days) and i found i could do it with kick roll fade out (volume) while pitched up wave (this can work with any sound for new ideas) is fading in from lowest note possible (clicks) then slowly get it to the 0 point and play AGFEDDDDAGFEGGGG
for the roll i used the sampler trick disco offered to make it go faster not on any grid
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Posted : Feb 24, 2011 15:08
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On 2011-02-21 21:54, disco hooligans wrote:
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On 2011-02-21 19:57, PoM wrote:
i think glitchs plugins will do that for you, stuff like live cut dblue glitch or the new izotope one maybe, i have oen in reaktor that i think could do that but i m not sure it can do it as good it s called buffeater , i doubt it s made in a sampler ,take too much time for todays producers
It doesn't take too much time.
And I can't speak for every glitch plug but I use LiveCut and you can't morph into this sound in such a controllable manner.
Try this simple process.
1) Open a soft sampler.
2) Drag and drop a kick sample (TR-808 kick for this example).
3) Set sample loop points at the start and end of the kick sample.
4) Trigger the loop.
5) Shorten the end loop point towards the start point in real time, up until you reach the start loop point.
I am positive that you will get the same result as pretty much any sample sounds like that when the end loop point, reaches the start point. I know this cause I was making the old Matrix "digital drowning voice" sounds with my old AKAI S1100 hardware sampler when I was learning it.
Peace out.
i tried that.. but that doesnt sound like that trak he put.. but thanks for the tip.. me using
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Posted : Feb 24, 2011 16:02
this plug is very deep but need lot of time and very carefull tweaking to get the most of it haven t used it much yet but i think it could get you there and way more. the demo is not that great yes..
