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trendy chord stab's(how 2)
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DnMla
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Posted : Dec 19, 2005 20:06
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NikC is totally right people!!!
How come you can sell (or play or whatever) track with sample made by other sound programer? (usual theese days)
That would meen you can use magix music maker finished sample loops and build a song in minutes and then sell it...it's basiclly same thing!
NikC is right couse he wants to introduce you to synthesis and you attack him...
And yes it's much more creative to copy astrix cord by YOURSELF than to use finished sample which haven't been used by anyone in psy genere!
Electronic musicians are not just musicians they are sound crators and that's one of prime beauties
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kirna
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Posted : Dec 19, 2005 21:24
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That would meen you can use magix music maker finished sample loops and build a song in minutes and then sell it...it's basiclly same thing!
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basically same thing then also would be that the synth that you use to create your own stab is made or coded by someone else so it isnt completley your own  |
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kirna
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Posted : Dec 19, 2005 22:21
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and my tips for shord stabs.... wahfx can sound pretty cool on chordstabs... vocoder also |
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piXan
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Posted : Dec 19, 2005 23:39
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dont break ur heads!!!
for bassline synths fx, im synthesis al the way!
but for a chord stab, there are many amazing studio quality sample cds which has most probably the one u want and even more.. common getting a hammond or whatever and record it urself?? and get pro resultss... good luck.. i just don get stuck in there, thats why u can always use sample cd,s which are royalty free ,, thats why you purchase them!! dah. ist not stealing, its borrowing in the most original way u can. by the way i just got the akai sample cd from harvey keitel psychdelic guitar... mind blowing.. so u wanna spend the rest of ur life playing and practicing guitar to complete a track, thats quite cool... but me ,,, donta have the time, rememeber :somethin old , something new , something borrowed and something new.... rina a bell??
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Elad
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Posted : Dec 20, 2005 02:32
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hehe mister kirna yuli and all other that pro samples (not that i have something against )
how many of u can tell 100% what chord is being played on the sample?
just intresting thought 
i agree mostly samples are ok but in this case its so easy to make your own..
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kirna
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Posted : Dec 20, 2005 17:01
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On 2005-12-20 02:32, tsabeat wrote:
hehe mister kirna yuli and all other that pro samples (not that i have something against )
how many of u can tell 100% what chord is being played on the sample?
just intresting thought
i agree mostly samples are ok but in this case its so easy to make your own..
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i cant tell the chord what i hear... i can try to find it out and make a bassline that fits for it... but i know nothing about chords or notes or minors.... i compose relying on my hearing and the keys i see in piano roll 
and yes maybe its easy to make your own but not everyone wants a pure synthesized feel to all sounds ... for example I like organic sounds also |
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DnMla
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Posted : Dec 20, 2005 21:09
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Right tsabeat !!! 
@kirna...well If I would be able to make my own synth I would be among pioneers of electronic music (like Kraftwerk or Aphex twin) but that is more question of electrotechnic or programing on computer and you choosed totally wrong words to say what you mean.
Using factory pressets (as we all do) is step behind totally original tracks and using sampled chord is two way behind!
What we should all do is USE existing synthesis types (analog, fm, granular etc.) on existing synths (real or virtual) to make our own presets and ofcourse our own notes (chords, mellows etc.)....that is the way of electronic musician!
P.S do you know what is organ? it is analog synth with multiple(and multiple pitch) sine waves that make greater complex wave forms...so do you think that you have to sample one to have "organic" chord ???
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kirna
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Posted : Dec 21, 2005 00:31
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ummm.. aphex twin didnt make any own synths he was just screwing around with some journalists... and i think your words (magix music maker) were absolutley wrong
i dont use factory presets almost at all, but i do use samples... how behind i am then?
PS. organ is instrument that poeople play in churches here in finland.... but i meant oraganic .... like living ... you know?! real sound.... no complex synthesis shit |
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Freeflow
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Posted : Dec 21, 2005 01:19
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i have to say i agree with NikC!
why use samples when you can do it your self?
isnt that the fun part?
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Freeflow
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Posted : Dec 21, 2005 01:33
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kirna
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Posted : Dec 21, 2005 02:24
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if reverse engineerig chord stabs is the fun part i am dickless gigolo |
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Freeflow
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Posted : Dec 21, 2005 02:27
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kirna - some people think stuff like that is fun... but that isnt the point, the point is that the fun lies in creating.... no mater if its already done before or not...
that just my point... im not saying that its like xtc but its educating and inspiring.... sometimes things like this can lead to very cool stuff...
each to their own.... |
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dma
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Posted : Dec 21, 2005 08:08
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thanx new era!!
i do have good organ plugs already,but havnt really try;d to make a chord stab with them,i will give it a try for shure!!
the stabs im refering to are the ones riddled through the new psycraft album,also delirious and astrix etc...
they sound saw based but not shure,there are some presets in logic 7 synths that sound like what i want !! i have try'd to modify them to get a new sound but havnt had much luck!!
im shure that u dont need virus or nord to do this,vanguard,es2,blue etc are all very capable!!
thanx for youre help!! |
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Milosh
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Posted : Dec 21, 2005 22:26
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On 2005-12-21 01:19, New Era Scientist wrote:
i have to say i agree with NikC!
why use samples when you can do it your self?
isnt that the fun part?
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First of all I DO NOT ATTACK ANYBODY
but what if i have a sample with a chord thet sounds just like I need? Ok it is nice to do it your self but why spending your time to create somthing that you have?
dma: try also Korg legacy collection
Never let computers to win a game! :)
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Freeflow
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Posted : Dec 21, 2005 23:38
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Milosh - of course... im not saying that you should do it just for the sake of doing it.... if you got the thing you need then it would probably be foolish to do something else...
i mean energy should be wasted where its needed...
but again if we look at it from another perspective..
lets say you are working on a track, and you cant find a sample, like you did the in a previous track... then you have to do it your self...
so sooner or later you might have to do it your self anyway... but maybe the philosophy - deal with the problems when they come is correct in this case..
well its no big deal,,, im just talking from my perspective... we are all different... and like somebody said... its the result as a whole that matter... its not bad or dishonourable to use sample cds or free ones...
but i do think taking others kicks(from already made tracks), or using friends sounds in your track without asking is bad and dishonourable..
but then again if we look at it from another perspective, using warez is maybe just as bad...
im not calling anybody anything... im just looking at it from an educational side...
are we clear? |
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