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Trance vs Money - who win ?
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moki
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Posted : Nov 21, 2008 23:27
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ah and one more thing. i dont see the point why i should support the need of the big stars to get their penis sucked off. everyone wants to get his penis sucked off, not only the artists, or do i see i wrong? why should i support their entertainment costs if i hardly even find money to pay my rent. it is ridiculous. the whole discussion is ridiculous. the vision is ridiculous.
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Ascension
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Posted : Nov 21, 2008 23:48
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moki
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Posted : Nov 21, 2008 23:56
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yeah.
and i can tell you another topic where money will win.
the black list topic.
the list of the labels that never paid.
it will be the underground labels.
it will be the labels that have a mission to spread the music among the freaks, rathen than selling it or making small new stars of the trance culture.
it will be dark psy at the end that will lose the game.
and if i support anything it is just to consider that many of the dark psy freaks who do music all the time, but really all the time, deserve to be paid for that and deserve to get their costs paid. this is all i have to say. cause the difference between them and the fucking 60000 is huge
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Pavel
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Posted : Nov 22, 2008 02:41
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On 2008-11-21 22:35, Moki.Time.Wave.Zero wrote:
and the point was that artists need bitches and cocks. this was the point. and also keep in mind that i dont want to read anything about penises sucked off by ukrainian prostitutes, cause i dont feel it is appropriate to disrespect a whole nation with such a nonsense and even if i dont belong to this country, i think it is totally ridiculous to say that.
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You are right. The artists might as well get served by any other nation's prostitutes, not only the Ukrainian. Aside 3rd world countries' prostitutes cause they usually have less satisfying oral hygiene. And no respectable DJ wants caries on his penis.
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V3NOM
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Posted : Nov 22, 2008 02:53
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Just a simple question Moki, how old are you?
The thing is, i is fine to have your views and perceptions of the world and of this scene. Heck, we encourage it.
But you learn with age that you cannot shove your views down peoples throats and expect them to change to your view.
You need to write thoughtful and intelligent posts, not agrressive and angry rants that just get us annoyed at you.
Launching a war of words will not solve anything here, nor will insulting members of the forums.
If you have an idealistic view of this scene and how you beleive that it should be done, how about taking a few days or even weeks and write a nice big post, usuing peaceful and intelligent language, expressing your views in a gently but meaningful way and make a topic that encourages positive discussion?
in basic words, grow the f%ck up mate, and develope a wee bit of maturity  |
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moki
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Posted : Nov 22, 2008 12:35
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why? i dont even want to change you.
cause i know i cant change the majority of this scene anyway, never will be. i dont even expect people to change to my view. those who have done it so far to take 60000 from a gig, they will never ever be changed by whatever words or even if they are, i dont wanna have anything to do with them anyway. i said many times, i left the big festivals, left the big parties and the big egos. i am so happy that i did. long live underground. it is the totally worng scene that i have been to for 10 years. and i am old enough, why? you have a problem to hear to word fucking? you feel embarrassed to read about bitches sucking off?? may be i could put a nice little plur as a signature, then i would be fucking more suitable for isratrance? dont een know what do i do here, i got caught by the goa gil discussion. i ve never even considered to explain anything more in public at all.
i have idealistic view of this scene, yes, but i see on every step that there is almost noone left who has it too. or they are silent. dont see them. i just see ridiculous posts about cocks bitches and stars. it is sick!!!!!!!!!
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Remy [POF]
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Posted : Nov 22, 2008 12:59
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On 2008-11-22 12:35, Moki.Time.Wave.Zero wrote:
i just see ridiculous posts about cocks bitches and stars. it is sick!!!!!!!!!
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Well you sure like to talk about though... 
This is the best topic ever 
*Getting popcorn and a case of beer..
On 2011-03-08 23:13, moki wrote:
listening only to free music is like having the free possibility to satisfy yourself with thousends of different free sexual acts. |
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moki
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Posted : Nov 22, 2008 15:04
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yeah cause i have seen incredibly a lot of people in my life that have this as a dream, as a vision. this is their goal. to finally become "good artists" and finally get the fucking bitches running after them. the first year where i got to trance which must have been more than 10 years ago, i would never ever imagine that it would look like that in ten years. i refuse to be a part ot this culture any more. how can anyone have such a dumb vision of the future. it is the vision, that creates the reality. so simple. you visualize a goal and it will slowly happen. goals always happen early or later, if not in this life then in the next. so be careful what you wish for yourself.
and yes, i know besides all those spoiled artists also quite a lot of artists that dont even get a 100 for their live acts and are very good. and i really have enough of this spoiled complaining from the artist side. we buy as much as we can. we respect as much as we can. and if i dont have money to fucking pay my rent, then i dont buy the release. i am sorry but it is the way it is. earlier in life when i was a part of the big machinery of the system i had much more money and bought releases. now i havent since weeks. this is life. if it gets better, i will buy. but it will also be only if i think that i can support someone who really needs it and not just to support his journeys through the world at places which i will never see, or to support his bitches. i mean i am just a human. i look first after my own bitching before supporting the bitching of someone else.
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Remy [POF]
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Posted : Nov 22, 2008 15:25
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On 2008-11-22 15:04, Moki.Time.Wave.Zero wrote:
yeah cause i have seen incredibly a lot of people in my life that have this as a dream, as a vision. this is their goal. to finally become "good artists" and finally get the fucking bitches running after them.
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and? 
On 2011-03-08 23:13, moki wrote:
listening only to free music is like having the free possibility to satisfy yourself with thousends of different free sexual acts. |
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Kane
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Posted : Nov 22, 2008 18:00
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On 2008-11-22 15:04, Moki.Time.Wave.Zero wrote:
i refuse to be a part ot this culture any more.
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THEN GTFO.
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Yeah, sure. If I don't have a user, then who wrote me? |
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moki
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Posted : Nov 22, 2008 18:39
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and what is o? come on, be a little bit more precise, i dont have the whole time on the planet to spend on isratrance. what is gtfo?
i am really interested just to have this experience of being here in this isratrance for some days. it is a kind of a border experience for me. i was reading from time to time here since many many years, watched how it all got worse and worse, people coming that have absolutely no clue about anything. now they are the majority. the rest of the people are serving them. everyone is doing their job to serve those that have no fucking clue. it is a funny experience to be here and read the bullshit. also from people that i would never expect it from. it is funny. i will see how far it can go. may be i would even say go to hell to the underground too at the end. once we believed that in trance we die. but may be we will not.
it is nice to be here . to really feel it. mostly i dont even get agressive here, even if i write 5 times fucking. i just find it funny. you are the onec who live in a vision that does not exist. and putting peace shanti and whatever would not make it better. it is just a lie.
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Nectarios
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Posted : Nov 22, 2008 19:31
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On 2008-11-22 12:35, Moki.Time.Wave.Zero wrote:
i just see ridiculous posts about cocks bitches and stars. it is sick!!!!!!!!!
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You find a bitch, you insert cock, you both see stars. Its not sick, its beautiful!
And don't disregard the term "bitch". In the right atmosphere and context of conversation, most girls love it when you call them that way. It helps them see even more stars.
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Posted : Nov 22, 2008 19:39
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On 2008-11-12 10:39, Forest dreams wrote:
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On 2008-11-11 16:21:40, pinachet wrote:
Ok do not know why I became to think about this.
But with some times I want to know that means ( good luck to all artists and cd's) !
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that's very bad English for an Indian. the Brits would be shameful!
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Probably he's not even indian
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V3NOM
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Posted : Nov 23, 2008 05:22
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I think IT's probably some 15 year old punk ass kid trying to sound big and tough, if not it is hilarious but sad to see an adult behave this way
If you don't like this site mate then why don't you just piss right off elsewhere?
Wow, 60,000 what? cents? dollars? pounds? euro? shekel? turds?
if I put on a big 3 day + festival and onlyk got 60K back I'd be a bit bummed.
I know many promoters from where I'm from put on big festivals maybe once a year, then they do lots of small free festivals, or others that just cover the cost of the dj's and rent of premises.
It all equals out.
Boom Shanti PLUR Peace Out mo' fo! |
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Kane
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Posted : Nov 23, 2008 06:28
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Moki, seriously, why are you still posting in this thread? You aren't even addressing anyone's comments or saying anything vaguely on topic here. If you hate the scene so much (whatever that is since there are so many different situations in different countries with different styles of music), then leave. Who doesn't have a clue about anything? Everyone but you? You aren't the center of the universe, so quit the hypocritical anti-ego bullshit. You think everyone needs to have some vision of mystical goa spirit to listen to psytrance? It's a type of music, not a religion. If anything, the goal is to accept culture of any kind, not criticize anything that isn't "Boom Shanti PLUR Peace Out" (to steal from sp). Why is it any of your business that some one makes 60,000 doing anything? There are obviously enough people to pay them 60,000, so even if you don't like the music, they're just doing their job like everyone else. Mainstream artists are getting a lot more than 60,000 a gig, but I don't see you complaining about that. Oh, forgot, trance artists aren't allowed to make money without being egotistical sell outs.
oh, and WHAT THE FUCK DO BLOWJOBS HAVE TO DO WITH ANY OF THIS?
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