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Trance vs Money - who win ?
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Kane
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Posted : Nov 12, 2008 19:56
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On 2008-11-12 19:28, ocelot wrote:
and so i do. not FOR the money, but without the money i could not do it.
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Soul Kontakt
Soul Kontakt
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Posted : Nov 12, 2008 20:11
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Fuck the money! The music wins, with less money you still can live a good life for sure. You can grow your own things and even eat better than the shit you buy with the money at the supermarket! You can be happy just looking at a beautiful beach or even just admiring a small bird trying to eat a beetle. For the money you need to go everyday to work and it's like a neverending race for you to get the money and buy what you really think is worth it. By time you realise that you worked all your life and half of the things you spent your money on are bullshit and you really didn't need them!
I choose the music it has always taken me to beautiful places and the money comes and goes the music remains deep in my hearth. Why i have so many memories related to music, it comes from deep within the artists soul and fills us up with pure energy to make our dreams come true!
MUSIC!
  Boom :)
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ocelot
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Posted : Nov 12, 2008 21:26
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On 2008-11-12 20:11, Soul Kontakt wrote:
Fuck the money! The music wins, with less money you still can live a good life for sure. You can grow your own things and even eat better than the shit you buy with the money at the supermarket! You can be happy just looking at a beautiful beach or even just admiring a small bird trying to eat a beetle. For the money you need to go everyday to work and it's like a neverending race for you to get the money and buy what you really think is worth it. By time you realise that you worked all your life and half of the things you spent your money on are bullshit and you really didn't need them!
I choose the music it has always taken me to beautiful places and the money comes and goes the music remains deep in my hearth. Why i have so many memories related to music, it comes from deep within the artists soul and fills us up with pure energy to make our dreams come true!
MUSIC!
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sure bro- good advice for yuppies slaving every day just to pay for their car payments and their apartment and condo and beachhouse/....
but where did you get your clavia nord lead and modular synthesizers you use?
and where did you get your computer?
and your studio monitors?
you used money.
and honestly i dont need any of your hardware to make good music. i can do it with my macbookpro and cubase4 only. thats fine for me. so i could actually say i use less money than you do.
and you give your music away for free. thats great. do you give away ALL your music? will you do that forever? and should we all do that?
for the record i do give away my older music on www.ocelotmusicshop.com and i gave away a lot of music over the years to charity compilations and whatever, but if you come try to hit me right where it counts i must say - do you know what you are doing and saying? are you really trying to say what i think you are saying?
i think this is just a way for artists to come up in the world. its normal. give away your tracks... once you are in demand and playing everywhere people ask a lot of free things from you and you get used sometimes and you will see what i mean soon enough bro... you will see... mark my words.
do you play on a party for free?
listen- i dont want to seem like "money guy"
i too recognize the beauty of life.
where do you grow your food for free?
you have some land to grow food on?
who bought it?
will you give me land for free to live on and grow food on?
i choose the music.
its not against or "versus" money like this topic suggests.
money makes the music possible...
its like saying "public libraries versus money"
well a public library aint all about money for sure. but if you dont have money you cant make a public library... you need books, a space, people to work there... etc...
while barter is cool- thats also money.
stop with the literality already. you know what i mean- energy exchange. not just take take take... you must also give...
this topic is shit stupid bad and otherwise totally bogus |
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Posted : Nov 12, 2008 21:32
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money is an instrument for exchange and saving, its not an end.
  "The dedication to repetition — the search for nirvana in a single held tone or an endlessly cycling rhythm — is one of electronic music's noblest gestures." |
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Ellon
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Posted : Nov 12, 2008 22:00
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On 2008-11-12 21:26, ocelot wrote:
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On 2008-11-12 20:11, Soul Kontakt wrote:
Fuck the money! The music wins, with less money you still can live a good life for sure. You can grow your own things and even eat better than the shit you buy with the money at the supermarket! You can be happy just looking at a beautiful beach or even just admiring a small bird trying to eat a beetle. For the money you need to go everyday to work and it's like a neverending race for you to get the money and buy what you really think is worth it. By time you realise that you worked all your life and half of the things you spent your money on are bullshit and you really didn't need them!
I choose the music it has always taken me to beautiful places and the money comes and goes the music remains deep in my hearth. Why i have so many memories related to music, it comes from deep within the artists soul and fills us up with pure energy to make our dreams come true!
MUSIC!
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sure bro- good advice for yuppies slaving every day just to pay for their car payments and their apartment and condo and beachhouse/....
but where did you get your clavia nord lead and modular synthesizers you use?
and where did you get your computer?
and your studio monitors?
you used money.
and honestly i dont need any of your hardware to make good music. i can do it with my macbookpro and cubase4 only. thats fine for me. so i could actually say i use less money than you do.
and you give your music away for free. thats great. do you give away ALL your music? will you do that forever? and should we all do that?
for the record i do give away my older music on http://www.ocelotmusicshop.com and i gave away a lot of music over the years to charity compilations and whatever, but if you come try to hit me right where it counts i must say - do you know what you are doing and saying? are you really trying to say what i think you are saying?
i think this is just a way for artists to come up in the world. its normal. give away your tracks... once you are in demand and playing everywhere people ask a lot of free things from you and you get used sometimes and you will see what i mean soon enough bro... you will see... mark my words.
do you play on a party for free?
listen- i dont want to seem like "money guy"
i too recognize the beauty of life.
where do you grow your food for free?
you have some land to grow food on?
who bought it?
will you give me land for free to live on and grow food on?
i choose the music.
its not against or "versus" money like this topic suggests.
money makes the music possible...
its like saying "public libraries versus money"
well a public library aint all about money for sure. but if you dont have money you cant make a public library... you need books, a space, people to work there... etc...
while barter is cool- thats also money.
stop with the literality already. you know what i mean- energy exchange. not just take take take... you must also give...
this topic is shit stupid bad and otherwise totally bogus
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WOW!!!!
Sorry to intrude but you (Ocelot) are taking this thread to personnal (no one is criticizing the use of money)....its not "we should all stop receving/paying money" but simply not make of money the priority of our existence...may it be social, economical or creative!!!! D
Money is a reality, we use it ...no problem there!!! Its just sad when it commands our intentions and deeds.
Take care!!! Peace!!!
 
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Music-Mushroom
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Posted : Nov 12, 2008 22:11
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Money Money Money...
i wish i could be the next Bill Gates... multi billionaire!
Buy Ferraris , having castle, and my private huge land for parties with huge lineup for me and friends only
& a farm for mushrooms and other nice plants! I love nature & maybe a laboratory for making some experiments! (preparing special mineral water drops)
Oh dreams dreams dreams….that’s life! Hollywood actors are lucky!
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psysnoopy
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Posted : Nov 13, 2008 06:00
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On 2008-11-12 10:39, Forest dreams wrote:
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On 2008-11-11 16:21:40, pinachet wrote:
Ok do not know why I became to think about this.
But with some times I want to know that means ( good luck to all artists and cd's) !
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that's very bad English for an Indian. the Brits would be shameful!
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LOL FD
And of course money
Forget about producing part! Even for listening to good music and going to parties, you need money!
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Nectarios
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Posted : Nov 13, 2008 09:19
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pinachet
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Posted : Nov 13, 2008 10:05
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smorphelia8
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Posted : Nov 13, 2008 11:01
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agree 100% with Ocelot on this one...
I think someone is confusing "money you work for", and "money daddy gives you" so that you can watch your bird trying to eat a beetle.....
Money makes business easier, faster... I wish i had a lot, so I could give to needs it more than me, and than maybe buy my soccer club....
keep doing what you do aaron, and i wish all artists would see it like you do..
ciao
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Pavel
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Posted : Nov 13, 2008 20:06
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On 2008-11-13 09:19, pipe&slippers wrote:
Worst thread ever.
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I think there are few worse than this one on the New Tracks section. But it's a strong competitor
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Basilisk
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Posted : Nov 14, 2008 02:49
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Ouch. What a train wreck.
For the record, the underlying philosophy of the free music movement is not that artists don't deserve anything for their work--far from it. No, we feel that by giving away the recorded work there is more of a demand for the live experience. And, in any event, the whole thing is operated on an opt-in basis. All the guys wishing to charge money for their produced work as well as their live shows are welcome to do so. But for those artists that see the benefit of giving it all away and maximizing promotional exposure--we're here for them, and we're dedicated to raising the professional standards of this emerging distribution system.
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lord_bhairava
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Posted : Nov 14, 2008 03:51
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last weekend i went to a Compact records in Mèxico, the artist where rude with some people, they think they are superstars, i never see this in other partys never! , i think this time money wins, im very tolerant but this guys take much seriously his rol of jewish people cliches
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aXis
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Posted : Nov 14, 2008 10:24
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for everything else theres mastercard |
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Xolvexs
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Posted : Nov 14, 2008 14:21
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money can take you into trance
trance can make you money
depends how good u r at making trance
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