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Traktor 3 ... the beggining of a new era for djs?
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mlazar
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Posted : Dec 6, 2005 07:15
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Just want to note that given the poor symc capabilities of traktor, and that loaded gui I'd say traktor is the hardest to mix. Wax is the easiest--fully analog allows you to touch the pitch in the slightest ways--not like this digital mixing on cd, where there is no half-step from 8-9.
well unless your mix is right at the lock point of your mkIIs.. hehe
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koalakube
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Posted : Dec 6, 2005 07:31
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On 2005-12-06 06:31, Rah wrote:
no i have not used traktor before, but i am however interested to see what they have put together... let's open our minds a bit to new alternatives 
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dude,exactly.
Read again my post.Im not dissing traktor ,since i have been using it since its first release (probably 4 years ago?) for live sessions.Not ashamed,i cant care less what people think about me using a midi controller,playing cds or spinning vinyls.
ANd its not even about being old school,so,leave that aside please.
I dont have any problem with djs mixing with whatever they like ,but again there is NO technical skill pressing a button on a cd player.period.(well apart from having a good timing lol)
So,saying CDJ is more difficult than traktor,is just plain crap.
@Mlazar
mixing 4/4 with traktor is not difficult,if u have a clue on how to use traktor.
Mlazar do u actually spin?just before i get on this discussion with someone who is just giving fried air.
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sundrop
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Posted : Dec 6, 2005 07:46
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it doesnt matter if one format is more difficult than another.
i think traktor is great
for home, radio station, or making a perfect mix.
i started out with traktor because i couldnt afford real tables.
but i move to tables because using a computer and a mouse and mp3s is too lame for me.
also dont like to see another DJ using traktor in a live setting playing mp3 staring at a computer (unless its a producer)
buy the CD/Vinyl and play honestly!!
how can u do that if you are worried about bumping the harddrive so your mp3 crashes
anyways i really dont think traktor is the next revolution in DJing.
most DJs dont want to use a computer and a mouse or mp3.
and most importantly, no DJ is gonna carry around his tunes in "traktor" format!
you cant invite another DJ to play on the laptop, not like u can on turntables.
i think dedicated hardware equipment that is similar to traktor, but still playing a disc media, will be the next revolution. |
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diskonekt
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Posted : Dec 6, 2005 11:27
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Traktor alone may not be the new era for djing but alongside this baby here :
http://www.xone.co.uk/3d.htm
looks tempting... don't you think ? 
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orange
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Posted : Dec 6, 2005 11:37
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Shanti Alien
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Posted : Dec 6, 2005 13:05
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e-motion
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Posted : Dec 6, 2005 13:06
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On 2005-12-06 07:15, mlazar wrote:
Just want to note that given the poor symc capabilities of traktor, and that loaded gui I'd say traktor is the hardest to mix. Wax is the easiest--fully analog allows you to touch the pitch in the slightest ways--not like this digital mixing on cd, where there is no half-step from 8-9.
well unless your mix is right at the lock point of your mkIIs.. hehe
peas,
-mky
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poor sync capabilities? that's because you use the sync button. you're a dj you must use your ears. the gui is bad as default but you can make it more "normal"... have you tried to put "Classic View" in the perferences? also you CAN touch the pitch in the slighest ways.
i have a friend that made a 5hr set without failures (just some slight beat mismatches) in traktor how can people talk bad about traktor? it just requires dedication as mixing with CDs requires. and this new traktor CAN truly be the furture. try getting the same feautures that traktor 3 has in hardware... now check how much money you spent! plus psy uses PCs for live act so why not using it for DJ set... you can even mix both with ease... maybe in a near future  (ableton live+traktor3 would be a killer act).
EDIT: how much does Xone 3D costs\will cost ?
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etnarama
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Posted : Dec 6, 2005 13:29
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please stop it......
As one of the djs that can actually play any decks and at home plays his mp3's on traktor( no time to pass the mp3's to cd, thats why i use tracktor) and produce is own shitty music... i Say:
kill the dj that plays pseudo live acts with fucking tracktor even if they are mixing their own music.....
Just wanted to say this..... a proper live act is when an artist plays real music, not only tweaking their own songs..... that anyone can do but to play live music on top..... uhuhuh that's the prob, how many do that???? a few and good.
And another thing please learn some beatmatching........... and stop pressing play in the end of the song....
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ichabod
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Posted : Dec 6, 2005 13:31
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On 2005-12-04 19:10, koalakube wrote:
But if i really want to point out something,it will always be much more difficult to mix with vinyls than any other format.period.
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respect
I'm not very fond of software based DJ tools, because they don't require much of a brain power to compile a mix, there's simply no challenge, no sweat involved...
mixing on records (vinyl) requires dedication, discipline, hard work, opposed to software that does not.
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Who wants to sweat when they're mixing? Why the hell should it be hard work? |
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orange
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Posted : Dec 6, 2005 13:49
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so if traktor is not a real dj tool stop using it but stop using vsti & vst to make music aswell go back to hardware!
i think technology is to make our life easyer if not i will start to bie big ice cubes and stuffed them in my ice box and get rid of my refrigerator!!
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askazi
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Posted : Dec 6, 2005 14:01
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the picture of a dj in our mind is  someone with hardware....
Many people say its easy and effective as well...
But its aint the real thing....
Its not looked upon!
HardWare... is HarD
SoftWare... is Soft
Go for HarD
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Rah
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Posted : Dec 6, 2005 14:46
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On 2005-12-06 14:01, askazi wrote:
the picture of a dj in our mind is someone with hardware....
Many people say its easy and effective as well...
But its aint the real thing....
Its not looked upon!
HardWare... is HarD
SoftWare... is Soft
Go for HarD
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wow you should be a philosopher...!!
i read sasha has been using Ableton Live to mix for the last couple of years with a custom made midi controller for live situations. Now, putting aiside the type of music he plays and that he produces... i would take advice tips on mixing from sasha... ANYDAY, over what anybody in here has to say. Remember when CDJ's were not looked upon? man people forget easy
- no i don't mix with computers in a live situations, just for the record.
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piXan
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Posted : Dec 6, 2005 16:19
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Lord Deo
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Posted : Dec 6, 2005 17:13
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On 2005-12-04 19:10, koalakube wrote:
But if i really want to point out something,it will always be much more difficult to mix with vinyls than any other format.period.
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respect
I'm not very fond of software based DJ tools, because they don't require much of a brain power to compile a mix, there's simply no challenge, no sweat involved...
mixing on records (vinyl) requires dedication, discipline, hard work, opposed to software that does not.
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Who wants to sweat when they're mixing? Why the hell should it be hard work?
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I dunno dude how's it with you, but when dj works the stage he really has to put some effort into it, otherwise sitting in chair under palm tree and clicking mouse that's every 6 years old kid can do. if you're not willing to work hard onstage, how can you expect people to dance hard for you on the floor???
gotta appreciate the people you playing music for, and if you don't sweat for them, none of them will even lift their feet for you. that's guaranteed. being a dj is not one way street, you get what you give. and if you expect good response from your crowd, you better sweat that ass of yours.
and final word: hard work filters out all those wanker wannabe dj's. don't get me wrong, there's nothing wrong with being wannabe, cus at the end of the day everyone started at that point. but if it wasn't for hard work, trust me dj scene would have been overwhelmed with the amount of so called DJ's, and the art of DJ-ing would have been nothing more than a being cab driver.
Trust me i got no problem with people playing pc's, cd's, dat's or whatever onstage, everyone finds his/her way of doing what they like doing or whatever. i just don't understand why people diss hardware, have some respect - it was hardware where the art of DJ-ing was born and raised. so if you consider yourself a true dj, respect the roots of your art.
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Posted : Dec 6, 2005 18:00
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Sure it's individual how you use the tools.
To me DJ'ing with CD's is easy work.
I spend most of the time waiting to punch in the next track.
When I DJ with Live I'm usually busy every second.
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I respect sony professional cassette players, because thats what all the good DJ's used back in the days.
But I sure as hell wouldn't like to DJ with them today based only on some sort of nostalgic romantic feeling.
They where cool at the time, but they suck by todays standards I think I can say without being disrepectful to the roots.
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