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Tracks wanted for a new VA-release!(Pureuphoria records)
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Sunrise Travellers
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Posted : Sep 24, 2013 13:45
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+1 Nectarie! I agree with you man!
I dont see anything wrong on this!
Too bad from my side that my tunes are between 132-135 bpm... 
Good luck with this one!
  ...into the wild.... |
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Ricciardo
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Posted : Sep 24, 2013 17:16
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On 2013-09-24 10:31, Nectarios wrote:
Give the guy (pureuphoria) a break.
Not many people started by releasing on Nano or any big label of your choice.
He is looking for music and wants to look into new talent that has not been heard before.
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do you call this "looking"??
you need to redefine your standarts about the meaning of the word
this isnt "looking"
this is more a "contact me to release on my VA because i am too lazy to search music by my self" thats what it is...
and please cut the bulshit and try to not distort what i meant...
i never said anything like people should release on Big labels...
and i have nothing agaisnt anyone find new talents, the problem here is VERY SPECIFIC ... and i allready mention it.
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COMET SHELL
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Posted : Sep 24, 2013 18:20
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prehaps they are looking elsewhere for tracks too, how the fuck do you know any diffrent, and if they arnt...who gives a shit?? (apart from you)
whats wrong with the artists in this forum anyway?
i have heard some really really good music in here and its a great place to start your search for fresh talent. |
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Nectarios
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Posted : Sep 24, 2013 18:38
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On 2013-09-24 17:16, Ricciardo wrote:
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On 2013-09-24 10:31, Nectarios wrote:
Give the guy (pureuphoria) a break.
Not many people started by releasing on Nano or any big label of your choice.
He is looking for music and wants to look into new talent that has not been heard before.
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do you call this "looking"??
you need to redefine your standarts about the meaning of the word
this isnt "looking"
this is more a "contact me to release on my VA because i am too lazy to search music by my self" thats what it is...
and please cut the bulshit and try to not distort what i meant...
i never said anything like people should release on Big labels...
and i have nothing agaisnt anyone find new talents, the problem here is VERY SPECIFIC ... and i allready mention it.
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How is this any different than labels that say "send demos to x email address"?
http://soundcloud.com/martianarts |
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B-recluse
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Posted : Sep 24, 2013 19:38
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yeah what a bullshit ! its just a question and do yo know him ? do you ever listened to his work ? So this is pure negativity ! so good for him that he passion for psytrance ! I really don't get it he is so frustrated because somebody ask for tracks ! smoke a big joint man and relax and let peoples creativity alone !! and you decide what can or not bullshit !!!! smells like a big ego here ,you started once before by your self don't forget that brother ! love and light to you bro ! |
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Ricciardo
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Posted : Sep 24, 2013 20:02
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On 2013-09-24 18:38, Nectarios wrote:
How is this any different than labels that say "send demos to x email address"?
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its completly different, a label may have a demo deposit email and that doesnt mean they will compile V/A´s opening threads on foruns asking for tracks restrictedly for it...
thats whats absurd, you cant name a V/A without compiling it...that was exacly what made me complain against this...
because the fact that he "named it" just shows ´that he doesnt really care about what music he will find, what music he will shose, that doesnt matter, because all he want its to release a group of tracks on a "his" label with the "cool" name he showsen for "his" V/A
like i said before, a label manager should have very strong ideas about what to release, and the fact that labels acept demo´s doesnt change anything...
but when you name a V/A and you go to a public form request tracks, that only shows me the person either is undecided about what to release, as that person is determinated to release anything, explointing newbies who will desperatly throw their demo´s thinking its a good oportunity...
this is an example of how psytrance releases becomed not important, they dont really matter... so people behave like this |
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Nectarios
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Posted : Sep 24, 2013 20:28
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But he has given a description as to what he expects in the first post. So he has something in mind and he is putting his message across.
Also when I had 0 releases, I was gagging to get something done and released, just to give something back, so I did that through Ektoplazm, cause I wanted it to be free and readily available to anyone who might like it. So trust me when I say that lots of people, want to be "exploited".
I don't know if you have any differences with this label, but I think you are taking this too seriously mate.
Relax.
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Ricciardo
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Posted : Sep 24, 2013 20:58
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On 2013-09-24 20:28, Nectarios wrote:
So trust me when I say that lots of people, want to be "exploited".
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I have nothing against this person or his label, i dont even know who he is...
i am just making a point here, Labels should care about releasing quality stuff, and the way you can do quality stuff its to consitently search for music, make list of artists your interested on, try to convince them to sign or colaborate with you...
and trust me, when that happens you will have a good feedback...
but i agree with you, many newbies actualy want to be exploited, and thats why there is people doing this, but what about the music? in most cases they arent ready or the music is not good enough to be out...
and there are many cases where people just want to have labels without having any competence for it...
so all this becomed a joke, its a joke to have a label, and a joke to make releases... because everyone is "playing", "pretending"
how can this be taking serious or make people care?? thats why people dont listen and dont search psytrance anymore... |
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Nectarios
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Posted : Sep 24, 2013 21:05
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Just like there are n00b artists that don't make great music, there are n00b labels that have to start small and work their way up. You, me, anyone, can't deny them the right to try.
And people do search for for psytrance they like. I am one of them and there are more out there.
... And people do listen to psytrance. People starting new labels is a perfect indication of a healthy scene.
http://soundcloud.com/martianarts |
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frisbeehead
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Posted : Sep 25, 2013 00:22
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not saying it's the case here (don't see anything wrong with this!), but it's kind of true that there's plenty of labels out there that lack any sort of professionalism and do absolutely nothing to promote the artists on this genre. not to mention the covers, most of them look like a sad joke.
truth of the matter is most of us do this because we love doing it! if you manage to get some financial reward from that, it's a bonus! not like more commercialy oriented genres, like House music, where big money is put on some records and big promotion takes place, and big contracts for touring in the hotest clubs and this and that!
the fact that there's some underlying philosophy behind this, since this emerged from a hippie background (so to speak), sometimes makes it very hard for people to be taken seriously, for labels to be functioning as real business instead of a "hippie club that gathers and releases music from their friends with bad designed covers..."... could go on!
I stand in the exact middle of this: in a way, I'm tired of the hippie attitude specially when it comes to money! (go figure, I bet many people here know what I'm talking about), sometimes I don't have the patience to search for new music myself - as there's so many crap out there. and other times, perhaps more optimistic times, I think it's cool that this remains a niche where labels aren't real business, artists aren't self made business man with crazy shedules making large amounts of money, and most specially, that there hasn't been one single psytrance track making it to number one on beatport!
(even though, taste aside, the covers on those are made by people in the know, most releases are mastered properly, have thoughtful people behind them promoting it and spreading the word wherever possible...)
so... think it's better to release the anger on actual releases then on projects of releases Ricciardo, this may very well turn out to be a good one
plenty of more worthy targets out there XD
and good luck to all those involved in this! |
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faxinadu
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Posted : Sep 25, 2013 06:28
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B-recluse
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Posted : Sep 25, 2013 12:35
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yeah ricciardo chill out brother ! nothing wrong here , we all have to learn ! And those people who dare they win ! so no drama here ! respect others and yourself and never forget how you started ! I know you don't mean it bad ! but if you want have a positive influence in the psytrance world ,I see everyday great producers shouting psytrance is shit ! and many following but unaware that those words become more negative and influence the psytrance world ! be love and have thrust it will be all ok in the end Namaste |
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frisbeehead
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Posted : Sep 25, 2013 14:55
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On 2013-09-25 06:28, faxinadu wrote:
why does EVERYTHING have to turn into such drama here :0
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sorry, didn't mean to add to the drama at all! just thought a little "seeing both sides" wouldn't hurt, that's all!
again, sorry for my off topic remarks and best wishes to everyone involved with this release and to the label! Cheerios |
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Ricciardo
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Posted : Sep 25, 2013 16:24
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On 2013-09-25 12:35, B-recluse wrote:
yeah ricciardo chill out brother ! nothing wrong here , we all have to learn !
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sure, i never said the oposite, but...
who told you that to learn anything you have to release your music?
when you release a track your not learning, your are exposing a material that is suposed to have have quality and that people should like...
i wish i could be more positive, but when i see lack of quality on the overal scene i cant think otherwise
and its not about proffit or if music sales, its how everyone becomed "slapy" , "lazzy" and dont care about detail and that is what turns the scene into a joke
being an hipocrite will not help, its the easy way, ignoring all the problems just pretending about the PLUR Thing, we are all the same bla bla bla, but then you start to notice music doesnt make much sense, because it was crafted without much effort, same with releases...
and things just lose sense, just dont matter, and thats why some producers i respect a lot also say it becomed shit...
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COMET SHELL
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Posted : Sep 25, 2013 19:00
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its not all shit, of course there is plenty of shit psytrance just like all music and everything else in the universe too. but there is also many good tracks and artists too. since i started buying records in 1997 i used to go to the city and stand in the record shops looking for new records to play in my sets, sometimes id listen to loads and loads before i found anything good. its not psytrance has become shit, its just your not looking in the right places. i think there is quality artists in this forum, iv heard some great music here and some of it is deffinitly worth releasing on a label. would you not agree? |
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