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Toronto's dead scene!
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Dataromance
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Posted : Apr 28, 2003 04:48
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What happend to Toronto?! There are just no interesting parties to go to on the weekends! most of the big parties with known *artists* are now happening in Montreal! I think this is very sad.....  same thing is happening with the techno scene there is a very small amount of organizers here who are actually trying to bring techno artists form abroad like Europe for example.. (Germany, Sweden..)
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Apocalypse Now
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Posted : Apr 28, 2003 06:49
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thats really sad, I had a great time partying up there. It did seem though that there just wasn't enough support, and the organizers probably just got tired of putting there hearts and wallets into something that people didn't care enough about to support.
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Basilisk
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Posted : Apr 28, 2003 18:14
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^^ that is pretty much the case... a few of us look back on the Juno Reactor party as a turning point - can you seriously imagine a fully featured party with such a great act only drawing around 200 people??
However I disagree with you about Toronto's scene being dead... NO we don't get the big artists anymore, but there are plenty of talented djs and artists in this city - come out and support them! There are a number of good monthlies, high-quality one-offs on occasion, and this summer is sure to have many free outdoor jams put on by underground organizations like freespace... if this doesn't satisfy you, there are about 5 or 6 festivals within 8 hours driving time this summer, and you can catch acts such as Hux Flux, Jaia, X-Dream, Absolum, Biodegradable, etc - if you're willing to make the trip.
Toronto is certainly not a dead town for psytrance by any means... we just don't have a large enough community to support regular big-budget events and that's it...
In the general case I find it particularly amusing that psyfolk have grown accustomed to big name live acts and even demand them, when the artists so often show and merely press the odd button on their computers... what happened to the days where one could be amused and entertained dancing in a field, listening to some ratty old tape coming out of a car stereo? We've got so much better than that already, and still many people are unsatisfied.
Bottom line: if you don't like how it is, DIY! 
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seb@Mandala
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Posted : May 1, 2003 18:12
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hey guys,
don't worry, the crowd will come back. It was the same thing in Montreal, it comes and goes in cycles. In Montreal we had up and downs since 95. Somtimes we can get more then 10 major headliners in a year and partie of over 2000 people and then only 1 or 2 the year after. We've been doing parties with 600 people refusing some at the door for a low budget party with locals only and few month after there was 200 people at a party with Dino, l'Elf and Neuromotor.
Crowd comes and goes in waves, the hard part is not to get new people but to keep the oldschool partyheads. The only thing you need is a core of organisers and dj's that WORK TOGETHER, help each other without asking for money all the time and a small group of 200 hardcore goaheads to show up at the party.
The main thing is that dj's and promotors must work together, different organisations must help each other with their parties, espacally with promo. If everybody wants to make his own thing alone, then you split the scene, you splitt the crowd and it doesn't work out. Seems easy to say thought it's not so easy to do. Here in Montreal it took us a while (at least 5 years) before people really unite without second thoughts but now we have a synergy amongst the scene, that's why festivals like the ones we have this summer can exist. Before that we were relying on big commercial event like Arrival, WEMF and that kind of shit ... now we boycotted these big commercial organisations to make our own festivals by oursleves, psy only, no other bullshit and since then things are much better.
You have to start small and then built up slowly ... if you try the big thing right away, then you get 200 people at Juno Reactor. And if you built a scene with people that are really into this music, they will come, headliner or not so there is no need to book big names all the time. People go to party to listen to music and have fun with friends ... they don't go to a "concert" to see a specific artist, at least not in Montreal.
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Basilisk
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Posted : May 5, 2003 18:36
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So did you make it out to the YURT this past weekend? I can have no sympathy for those who complain yet don't try out something fresh and interesting.
The Yurt was a good 60 feet across perhaps, maybe 15 high or so at the apex... it was set up right under the Bloor viaduct (for those who don't know: an enourmous bridge that spans a highway and river in a valley, carrying cars and subway trains hundreds of feet above the site)... the inside was well-decorated and heated, and hundreds of people came out for this freevent... though, the funny thing is, despite the music being nearly 90% psychedelic, very few psytrance fans showed up! Are these the people that are complaining our city has nothing interesting to offer? I wonder... because this event was surely one of the most interesting I have ever attended. And still, people will complain...
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Leon Psynesthesia
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Posted : May 7, 2003 00:41
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i think the winter was the main reason for the situation but things definately get better and at no point in the last few months it was dead .
the parties are amazing, the crowd is great, and i have only good things to say about TO's dj's .
in the last 2 months i was out at psy party pretty much every weekend, and always had a good time .
the yurt by the way was great great time .
so some people will always complain and some will come and support .
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