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missing-link
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Posted : Nov 19, 2006 16:20
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hi all i was woundering if you guys could help, i have writen some tracks and i have had some feed back from ppl telling me my top end is muffled...
i was woundering if any one had any sugestions on how i can make my top end production clear and crisp ...
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=77899633
the link is to some of my tracks if any one wants to listen to what it sounds like now.
i hope you can help
manny
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Enertopia
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Posted : Nov 21, 2006 05:51
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Tracks are nice, yes, the bass sound is a bit too muddy, what soundcard do you use?
I suggest to visualy analize your frequencies and cutt off some of the 30HZ and below, and give the bass sound more punch by adding somefast attack compressions r even a bit of Quadrafuzz from Cubase.
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l337
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Posted : Nov 21, 2006 08:08
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Havnt had a listen however, if you want to balance the mix and get the top end sounding crisp you need to use lots of EQ on your tracks....
...use a frequency analyser on each track seperately then EQ...
search this forum for the eq'ing thread that gives you some guidelines for each track type (note they are onyl guidelines!) |
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missing-link
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Posted : Nov 22, 2006 00:23
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I use A motu 828 (but i write all my music on headphones, dam thoes neighbours  ) i have been having problems with my bass sound for some time  i use logic so i write my bass with the es1... i dont know if it is because i am writing in the scale of C or if i need to use a differnt synth?
i will try the compression and distortion ideas enertopia, thank you for the feedback
l337 the thing about the frequenzy analyser, is im not sure what im looking for, i have had a look and, well, it gets me brain in a bit of a mess. im not sure what i am trieng to achive with it...
if any one as any suggestion or maybe a screen shot of what im trieng to aim for that would be really usefull...
am i trieng to get each sound, bass, kick, leads, hats etch to fill the different frequenzy slots or do some fit in the same slots... because every time i use one it looks like all the instruments fit in all the slots
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missing-link
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Posted : Nov 24, 2006 14:11
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well iv been working on the muffeld thing on the bass , i have uploaded a clip see what you think...
http://download.yousendit.com/2E53DEF10533D50A
i have cut off low end at 30, the added some distortion and a notch filter....
It sounds better to me, but what do you guys think ??? |
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Kane
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Posted : Nov 27, 2006 04:39
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theres part of your problem bro, don't cut ANY frequency out of anything completely..
As for the tracks, they sound great but you're right, the bass tones just aren't there..
What do you do to your track as far as finalization/mastering? If you're cutting out everything below 30hz in the track that's a biggg problem.
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faxinadu
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Posted : Nov 27, 2006 10:01
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its good to cut stuff below 30.
its generally muddy sound that takes up A TON of mix energy and getting rid of it gives u so much more room in the mix and makes it so much cleaner.
remember eqs have a responce curve, you are not cutting ALL the low freqs, simply rolling them off from 0-30.
its important to do this with as phase linear and high quality eq as possible.
i do it sometimes with logic's eq but there are better options.
The Way Back
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Dr. Panic
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Posted : Dec 1, 2006 07:12
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Hola......
IMO......i think you should roll the bass frequencies of all your intruments with a locut .........between 200-300 except Kick and Bass....also this depends on the sounds of your synths, vocals etc......... it will be variable on the sound of each thing, so you leave the space for the needs of the kick and bass ......but never go below 200 , you will need space for those 2 guys .
Now with the kick and bass you will have to make some damps on these 2, for example in the bass you need go tweak between 70-80 hz and with the kick 140-200 hz move around these 2 try to make notches........ experiment .....cut the bass frequencies of kick and bass below 30 hz....is cool !.
Probably will clear your sound in matter of kick and bass and also synths will be bright.
Nice tunes by the way !
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faxinadu
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Posted : Dec 1, 2006 11:07
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missing-link
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Posted : Dec 1, 2006 16:46
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Dr. Panic
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Posted : Dec 1, 2006 20:47
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Wicked !, now i think you need to clean the bass and the kick .
For example grab the Logic's Channel eq and make a damp on the bass in 76-80 hz -18db with a q of 7.0 and put the locut to 30 hz
With the kick now grab the same eq and make a damp on 140-160 -6 or -8 db with a q of 1.5 or 2.0 also with a locut of 50hz.
If you flet that the bass still muddy with the kick especially cause you're using the es1 open the bass q to 4.0.
Cheers.
Dr. Panic.
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missing-link
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Posted : Dec 1, 2006 21:00
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On 2006-12-01 20:47, Dr. Panic wrote:
Wicked !, now i think you need to clean the bass and the kick .
For example grab the Logic's Channel eq and make a damp on the bass in 76-80 hz -18db with a q of 7.0 and put the locut to 30 hz
With the kick now grab the same eq and make a damp on 140-160 -6 or -8 db with a q of 1.5 or 2.0 also with a locut of 50hz.
If you flet that the bass still muddy with the kick especially cause you're using the es1 open the bass q to 4.0.
Cheers.
Dr. Panic.
http://www.myspace.com/themelovskys
http://www.myspace.com/electro7
http://www.myspace.com/spacefunghiproject
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dude your a star cheers for the help i will give it a go
grazie mille
Manu |
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