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Top 10 Visuales Vj packo pasko "Balam sak"

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Posted : Jan 16, 2005 08:25
Top 10 Visuales

Para los amantes de la cooltura visual aqui les dejo algo de tarea que ver
que buscar en internet y por supuesto lo que deven tratar de tener entre sus reliquias
de los visuales para mejorar su SET de visuales.


#1.- I AM trailer
Productora: A DIMENSION Y PRODUCTION
Director ? se las dejo de TAREA

#2.- Los videos de ONE EARTH
www.oneearth.org

#3.- El segundo renacimiento Parte I y II
Escrita por Andy y Larry Wachowski
Dirigida por Mahiro Maeda
Animacion y Diseño de produccion por STUDIO 4°C, Tokio

#4.- www.studio4c.co.jp

#5.- AKIRA
Año 1987
Director Katsuhiro Otomo

#6.- Metropolis
Año 2001 japon
Direccion Rintaro
Guion Katsuhiro Otomo
Musicka Toshiyuri Honda

#7.- HALO
Game XBOX 2004

#8.- Waking Life
www.wakinglifedvd.com

#9.- www.giraffentoast.com

#10.- AMOEBA
Vj Amoeba
www.theestateovcreation.co.uk

BONUS Jostick "ATARI" para los nostalgickos 80teros
Un nuevo game que no puedes dejar de tener en tu colleccion
www.jakkstvgames.com
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Vj packo pasko "balam sak"
(Manad VJs / TRIPZCALLI)
Visuales call a 044 55 1836 7710
Vj_packo_pasko


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Posted : Jan 16, 2005 21:52
Visual Top 10

For the lovers of the visual culture there it
goes some homework to look out on internet and
of course what u should have between your visual
relics for upgrade your visual set.

1.- I am Trailer
Producer : A Dimension and Production.

2.- One Earth Videos
www.oneearth.com

3.- The second reinassance Part I and II
Written by Andy and Larry Wachowski
Directed by Mahiro Maeda
Anime and Design Production by 4°c Studio

4.- www.studio4c.jp

5.- "Akira" movie 1987
Directed by Katsuhiro Otomo

6.- "Metropolis" animation movie
2001 Japan
Directed by Rintaro
Script by Katsuhiro Otomo
Music by Toshiyuri Honda

7.- Halo 2
X-box Video Game

8.- Waking Life
www.wakinglifedvd.com

9.- www.giraffentoast.com

10.- Amoeba
Vj Amoeba
www.thestateovcreation.co.uk

"SPECIAL BONUS"
Atari´s Joystick, for the nostalgic 80´s
A new game u cannot have in your collection.
www.jakkstvgames.com
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Vj packo pasko "balam sak"
(Manad VJs / TRIPZCALLI)
Visuales call a 044 55 1836 7710
www.tripzcalli.com
Farbini


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Posted : Jan 16, 2005 23:11
This is ridiculous, packito...
You told me that you made your own visuals.
And you only mix stuff...
This is bad, I hope one day you make something original... good luck           Farb0_
http://www.psyart.tk
Rik
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Posted : Jan 17, 2005 17:37
aren't these clips copyrighted and doesn't this make the result a copyright infrigment?

sounds dodgy to me, and very unoriginal, lacking any personal touch at all...           www.psytracks.com :: Brand new website for sharing your psytracks with the world. Get a free 250Mb Artist profile, Blog and events calender!
www.psygarden.be :: Upload your psychedelic art and partypictures to our gallery!
psytwin
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Posted : Jan 18, 2005 11:22
Hello Packo. have got a question?...
your top 10 Vj, it is only for Mexico?
because I never hear about most of them.
Have try your link and i couldn't see much of your staff.(little tips: drop msn.group for your web site hosting, it look very dodgy...)and as rik said your site will need a bit of personal touch:user:           http://www.psytwin.org
http://www.youtube.com/psytwin
http://www.facebook.com/psytwin.video
http://www.myspace.com/psytwin
Vj_packo_pasko


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Posted : Jan 19, 2005 04:01
Psytwin:

at this moment we work like web link

surprise coming soon
April 2005 1er Annversary
web TRIPZCALLI Booking,News,Art & Forum

thank you psytwin
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Vj packo pasko "balam sak"
(Manad VJs / TRIPZCALLI)
Visuales call a 044 55 1836 7710
www.tripzcalli.com
Vj_packo_pasko


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Posted : Jan 19, 2005 09:13
Dear rik Moderator

The subject of copyright is
very long and complicated to understand because
it takes you to many options, ideas, and conclusions.

Dj`s as vj`s buy their music or ask for it to the original authors.
In more of 70% of these cases dj`s and vj`s does not buy
the original CD or dvd. They just download them or
trade them, and in this this that we all fall like "breakers"
of "law of author rights" or "corpyright"
and even more if they use it to mix
the music/videos in a public event.
So, having it like this, the one that`s
free of sin, may throw the first stone.

The one that haven`t done this
(and it has thrown the first stone) congratulations.

I can talk about many cases and names of Vj`s that
already are in a greater level than me and that
are recognized world-wide by their work,
so, have the advantage to sell
their work in DVD.

Those original DVDs I have buyed, have a lot of images that
u can see in other videos. You can only see those imagenes
in fragments cause they have been cutted and
manipulated in many ways of which I think "have they asked the
original authors for them?". Rik lets not act like we are fools.
We both know that, joyless, I can give you a complete list
you of those artists.

This is very easy. If I was a Comic actor,
and created a joke. Then register it. what do you think
that could happen? ________ if somebody uses it ____
I sue him jeje you tell me?

Somebody is going to use it anyway changing it or modifying it.

guess what Rik he did just like a dj or vj. He mixed it.

Therefore the plastic visual artists "VJ´s", eventhough
it depends on if you do it with "artistic" or "economic"
intentions,gives you the right to modify or
use the material or dont use it at all.

How is this:

Presenting before the government of his country of
origin all your original work(movies,image, photo)
as your buyed work original dvd´s and what you download of the
legal sites where artists,
dj`s and vj`s authorize you to.

And specifying what you do and what you are in your
work and what you are doingo with that work.

You just have to pay your public
execution fee of the federal law of author.

Being registered has its good and bad side.
As a plastIc visual artist or whatever you are in your
field (in your recidential country and work)

I design my own work. My loop, videos,
imagenes and another kind of work
that I use to mix my imagenes and to be a
Vj live act.
This work is registered like my
property or property of the MANAD Vj group.



Sorry if my grammar is bad but
i am not the best writing in english...

Estimado rik Moderator

El tema del copyright es un tema, muy largo y compricado
de entender porque te lleva a muchas opciones, ideas,
y conclusiones.

Los dj como los vj compran su material o se lo piden
a los autores originales, en mas del 60% de estos caso los dj o vj
no compran el cd o dvd originales solo los piratean o los tradean
y en esto caemos todos como "violadores"
de la (ley de derechos de autor o el corpyright) entre comillas
y mas si lo usan para mexclar la musica en los evento asi como los videos.

Asi que por este lado en que este libre de pecado que tire
la primera piedra.

el que no lo haya echo (y haya tirado la primer piedra) lo felicito.

Te puedo mencionar muchos casos y nombres de Vjs que ya estan en un
nivel mas grande que yo y que son reconocidos mundialmente por sus
trabajos en muchas partes del mundo y ademas tienen la ventaja de
vender su material en DVD

Esos DVD que yo compro originales tienen miles de imagenes pirateadas
ya que algunas solo las podemos ver en pedazos, cortadas, manipuladas
en muchas maneras de las cuales yo me pongo a pensar se las pidieron
a su autores originales rik no nos hagamos cara de idiota la verdad
sabemos que no con gusto te puedo dar una lista completa de esos artistas.

Es muy facil esto Si yo fuera Comico, y creo un chiste
lo registro que crees que pasaria________ si alguien lo usa____ lo demando
jaja ¿dime tu?

Alguien lo va a usar de todas formas cambiandolo o modificando mi chiste

que crees rik hizo lo mismo que un dj y un vj lo mexclo.


Por lo tanto los artistas visuales Plastico "VJ´s" aunque depende
si lo haces con intenciones "artisticas" o "cobrando"
te da mas derecho a modificar o utilizar el material o a no tener
derecho de hacerlo.


Como esta esto:

Presentando ante gobierno de su pais de origen
todo tu material original asi como tu material
comprado dvd´s originales no piratas
y lo que bajas de las paginas legales de descargas
donde lo mismos artistas, creadores musicos, dj
vj te autorizan al bajarlo.

Y al especificar lo que haces y lo que eres en tu trabajo y
lo que vas hacer con ese material.

Solo tienes que pagar tu cuota de ejecuccion publica
de la ley federal de autor.

El estar registrado en gobernacion tiene sus pro y contras
como artista visual plastIco o lo que seas en tu
campo de trabajo (en tu pais de recidencia y trabajo)

Yo diseño mi propio material mis loop, videos, imagenes
y otro tipo de material que utilizo para mexclar mis imagenes
y ser un Vj live act, material que esta registrado
como mi propiedad o como parte del grupo Manad Vjs.
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Vj packo pasko "balam sak"
(Manad VJs / TRIPZCALLI)
Visuales call a 044 55 1836 7710
www.tripzcalli.com
psytwin
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Jan 19, 2005 13:11
Dear packo

your Vj booking web site is a very good idea... I will for sure go back to tripzcalli.com to check it out in april.

fabrice           http://www.psytwin.org
http://www.youtube.com/psytwin
http://www.facebook.com/psytwin.video
http://www.myspace.com/psytwin
Vj_packo_pasko


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Posted : Jan 19, 2005 19:04
Hello psytwin:
thank you

soon April 2005
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Rik
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Posted : Jan 19, 2005 20:16
please, don't adres me as moderator, i'm just a user like the rest of you and don't want any extra status... it's just because i visit this section a lot and am very interested in these subjects that i have the little yellow moderator title under my name... but it means nothing at all when i post comments like these!

what i intended with my post is that I appreciate vj's more when they use material they filmed or created themselves, like dmt visuals from israel who always has his camera with him, or Nico from france who generates his own animations for all his visuals... these are true artists in my eyes... compared to the sample techniques many other vj's use...

then again, this is just my personal opinion and i don't even know how many people would agree with me.

          www.psytracks.com :: Brand new website for sharing your psytracks with the world. Get a free 250Mb Artist profile, Blog and events calender!
www.psygarden.be :: Upload your psychedelic art and partypictures to our gallery!
Farbini


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Posted : Jan 19, 2005 20:44
I absolutely agree with you, Rik, those vj's who made their own material are the real artists...
And sadly, packo isn't one of those but I hope someday he will... good luck packito, take pencil and paper and drop all those videos (just a tip)           Farb0_
http://www.psyart.tk
psytwin
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Jan 19, 2005 21:16
Hi there,

Regarding to this topic, I did remember participated to an topic on an other forum "vjforums.com" few month ago.

I search and find it back. So here is what I did post at the question : What is a VJ?

--------------------------------
Well is true that all those names for describe what we doing is a bit confusing.

I believe is only because the visuals show activity is not that old compare to music one.
Visuals show for all kind of event getting more popularity since few years and a lot of people getting into it. People start to work more or less together and then need it to call themselves with a name to describe they works.

If we thinking about: what is the activity behind the final result of the visuals shows?

Is it being involve in visuals show?
Is it mixing videos on stage?
Is it making videos loops?
Is it creating videos using graphics designs?
Is it promoting a visuals concept?
Is it promoting a branch of various visuals concepts?
Is it release visuals on DVD?

I think they all part of the main activity of visuals but sure, breaking a part they are all deferent.

From my point of view:

** Nice guy **
Some one who is involve in visuals show.

** VJ **
Some one mixing videos on stage. Some one able to making his own videos loops out of various sources. By choosing the videos the VJ is able to promote him self and his way to mixing and running a visual performance.

** Visual Artist **
Some one who is able to create his own videos using his knowledge in various techniques like: (graphic design, 3D modelling, live camera, etc…). By creating his own videos the visual artist is able to promote him self as a VJ performing on his creation. He is able to release DVD witch will be use by an other VJ.

** Visual LABELS **
A label is a corporation who promote various Visuals Artists and VJs in a specific type of event. When you are part of a label, that give you references to your works and performances and confirm to the promoter’s events your style and competence. Labels are able to releases DVDs with various visuals artists’ works and make compilations to bring out the best videos mix.


So there are a lot of VJs and some of then are Visual artist witch make things confusing.
Well I think when we will get lot of DVD out and people will be able to buy and use then for VJing like DJs and music, it will be easier to make the deference.

So far as I know and correct me if I ‘m wrong, they is not visual labels running, only corporation and individual concept .May be in the future.


Personally I describe myself as a Visual Artist, VJing my own creations
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I do see agree with both point of view "Rih and packo" and I belive this is just about where , how and when to find the unreachable cross line between VJ and Visual Artist

W.xxx

ps ( we both using the same login Fabrice and me 'Willy' ) so sorry for confusion and look the sign on the post
          http://www.psytwin.org
http://www.youtube.com/psytwin
http://www.facebook.com/psytwin.video
http://www.myspace.com/psytwin
Vj_packo_pasko


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Posted : Jan 20, 2005 01:51
"For everyone who send me your address ill will send you a copy of my demo work"

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Vj packo pasko "balam sak"
(Manad VJs / TRIPZCALLI)
Visuales call a 044 55 1836 7710
www.tripzcalli.com
Vj_packo_pasko


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Posted : Jan 21, 2005 01:58
Hello dear rik, psytwin

"For everyone who send me your address ill will send you a copy of my demo work"

me mail packoproducciones@hotmail.com

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Visuales call a 044 55 1836 7710
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amoeba

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Posted : Feb 17, 2005 20:50
many thanks to u guys for including me in your top ten.
i work hard, dont sample, dont vj, dont copy just create.

I now release a/v motion graphic dvd's
and do a full live a/v set. as well as running a design company.

I stopped vj'ng around 1998 as I make music and the sounds I was being paid to show my work to did not reflect the creativity in the video work. I make promo videos for bands and record labels and u cant do that if you just mix dvd's or other peoples footage.

oh and I hate trance with a passion

If you steal other peoples work then you deserve all the bad karma you get, especially mine as I have big scottish fists and an angry face ))

the reason people sample and use those samples in their set and get paid for using stolen work is that there is no personal responsibility in doing it, if they sampled from a video artist or film maker who knew them or lived in the same town then they would expect to get caught and punished. If you sample and use the footage in a non paying environment then Im a little bit easier on that, its still morally dodgy but no money is being exchanged so it changes the situation.

I notice that I had a bunch of hits from mexico, that pleases me do the mexicans know of the audio artist
MURCOF?? with the album MURCOFF-MARTES if not then please please tune in to him he is exceptional!

please please please all of you who copy and mix other peoples work, just stick to doing that and call yourselfs vj's.

if you create your own footage and style then your an artist.

my kindest regards to you all and thanks for the respect shown to my work.

oh and just to re-iterate
I HATE TRANCE WITH APASSION





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