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Pavel
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Posted : Apr 17, 2005 20:27
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That's not the way to treat the newbies, isn't it?
Can't we be at least civilised?
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EYB
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Posted : Apr 17, 2005 20:29
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Yeah u r right.
Sorry Astralasia, i was a bit angry when i read this stuff here.
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EYB
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Posted : Apr 17, 2005 20:35
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On 2005-04-17 17:21, AjmaGard wrote:
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On 2005-04-16 18:03, Astralasia wrote:
And by the way, comparing to u, ye im shure im a elite, afterall i do work in the largest music store in sweden and i do take care of the high-tec side 
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I take it from this post that buisness isn't going too well then?
But still: Could you please link to some of your tracks so we can really hear how much better you are than these 'kids' you refer to?
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So where is ur great 'hardware' music, babe?
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psypox
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Posted : Apr 17, 2005 20:43
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On 2005-04-16 18:53, Astralasia wrote:
What im trying to say is, im working whit High end Equipment and i just want to encurage people to try and see the difrence, it´s like a dream, your music will get a life of its own!
Take Care!!
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maybe the "kids" sont have money for high end equipment! dooh..
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psypox
Psypox / Bufo
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Posted : Apr 17, 2005 20:47
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software dont make your music bad if you know how to use it!
i use both.... mose hardware thoug
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artilect2050
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Posted : Apr 17, 2005 21:07
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I also don"t mind soft or hardware.there is also a difference between hardware and hardware you know? some artists with hardware sounds "fatter and fuller"then the other.On the other hand,it's a compliment for people making a great sounding product with only software. |
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UnderTow
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Posted : Apr 17, 2005 21:08
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Astralasia, you are making a fool of yourself. Let me explain:
1) Most software synths do NOT emulate virtual analogue synths. The way VA synths work is that they use mathematical models to synthesize sounds. This is EXACTLY the same thing as software synths do. The fact that VA synths run on Motorolla (or Shark or whatever) DSPs just makes them more efficient. It does NOT make them sound any better.
The sound of a digital synth is dependant on the algorithms used to produce the sound. EXACTLY the same algorithms can be implemented on a motorolla DSP as on a Pentium/AMD/PowerPC CPU. There is absolutely NO sonic difference.
2) When you use software synths, you have close to no latency after rendering. The audio is sample accuratly synced. To be exact, the latency is within the time frame of one sample. This is absolutely NOT the case with ANY hardware VA synths yet. The first one that will have sample accurate syncing will be the Virus TI which isn't even available yet. (Although it will be very soon).
3) As long as you havn't posted any music of yours that we can listen to, you look like a total fool when you claim that you are better than ANYONE else.
4) If you think you have no latency in your hardware studio, you should be fired from the music shop you work in because you are totaly clueless. (I am assuming here that you mean a musical instrument shop rather than a CD/vinyl shop).
5) When you make assumptions about other people like you did about Pavel (What music he makes, what soundcard he has, where he gets his software) whitout knowing the guy or his material you just look like a teenage idiot with no brains.
volvo box: Although there are a few software synths (Native and DSP based) that emulate analogue electronics, the vast majority of softsynths produce their sounds purely by using DSP maths that don't emulate anything at all.
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Pavel
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Posted : Apr 17, 2005 21:12
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Thanx UT. I'm too tired to write something that you just did.
Any words from the other side?
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jhanna
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Posted: Apr 17, 2005
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Why is everyone taking this guy seriously ??(astralasia) , it is obvious that he is a complete asshole with shit for brains...
listen to Cosma first album and shut the fuck up.. wheres ur music dude. Obviously u work in a music shop cause u got no talent for the real deal.
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Pavel
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Posted : Apr 17, 2005 23:49
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Please be polite. Ok?
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jhanna
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Posted : Apr 18, 2005 03:08
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ok sorry.couldnt help myself |
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Freeflow
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Posted : Apr 18, 2005 03:34
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On 2005-04-16 16:31, Astralasia wrote:
Is it jus me getting upset by the way the trance scene is today!!
A bunch of kids sitting whit their software
and making music whit their soundblaster cards, while their downloading movies!!
And getting a contract and release a cd whit a quality that sounds...well! Crap!
Why is evrything about money today!
Me? i would put evry penny to buy some new equipment and make the music better!
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1. The scene has always been a bunch of "kids" fooling around with sounds, sure kid stuff has always attraced older people aswell, casue they want to have fun aswell...
2. If you where a kid that wanted to make music, would you go out and buy your self a 2000$ soundcard and hardware-synths and FX´s for 3000$ without knowing much about how to use them?
3. crap is subjective!
4. money is needed in the modern society! if not for money or equivalent we would still live with the nature(which some of us actually would love to do!) and trading food for drugs, well trade or kill or just share.
5. if you want to invest in hardware synths and make the music better then go ahead, while some of use use both hardware and software or any other instruments to make music... not to make it better or worse, just to make music. cause its fun and its food for the soul! to make music is also a battle with you inner self.
actually i could do psytrance music with just a microphone, a computer, soundforge and a sequencer with some basic effects and no synths at all... or i could do it with just adobe audition and nothing else..
or why not with a drumset with a bassdrum filled with some pillows and some addtional percussion and some flutes, some live psychedelic music... you seen those oneman bands thats has rigged them selfs with instruments and use their whole body to play.
do you get my point? you are arguing about some synths when the world is filled with instruments(you can even make your own) and your brain is blessed with a mind that can make so many innovatie things.
and the point is also that if you can make music why wouldnt you do it, if you want to do it, no matter how old you are or what gear you have, if someone wants to release your music good for them, if somebody wants to listen, good for them, if somebody dont want to listen, good for them.
why make it difficult when it can be simple?
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br0d
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Posted : Apr 18, 2005 06:13
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This is a major problem in Astralasia.
Seriously, some day you will outgrow this insecure syndrome, my friend.
Good luck.
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Astralasia
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Posted : Apr 18, 2005 09:51
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OK! first of all im not only talking about synths!, How many of you have tryed a good hardware eq?? and im not talking about Behringer ( as the moast of u here do)
Yes im quite shure that the VB-1 is better sounding whit a cubase eq!! soory for beeing stupid, afterall im just working whit equpment like, Universal Audio, Urei, Manley, Gyraf Audio, Apogge Ect. im shure your pluggins sound just as good as this!! Maybe i should install my soundblaster card and start doing some progressive trance whit my VB-1 using, A Eq which comes in whit Kellog´S Cornflakes!! or some other serials!!
"The Stupid kid from outer space"
Oh, yea!! and by the way who wrote something about why the MS20 doesn`t beeing produced!!
And that it`s why the ms20 controller has taken over instead? Dude!!! get lost, Do you have any idea what such components would cost today??? and you cant be serius saying that they sound yhe same?? This guy better get a jobb on a gas station out in mexico!, this is the type of guy that would try to sell sand in the sahara desert! |
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vox
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Posted : Apr 18, 2005 11:17
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On 2005-04-16 18:53, Astralasia wrote:
What im trying to say is, im working whit High end Equipment and i just want to encurage people to try and see the difrence, it´s like a dream, your music will get a life of its own!
Take Care!!
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yeah, right. like you will drive like schumacher if you were provided with a formula one car.
you better try to encourage people to take music lessons than to buy hardware - that's the reason all todays psy sounds like overproduced techno with bleeps and glitches.
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