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Pavel
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Posted : Apr 16, 2005 20:20
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On 2005-04-16 17:55, Astralasia wrote:
U just got to be an upset VST user who never expirienced what real good equipment can do!
You are probibly downloading all your vst`s and
running a Integrated soundcard on your computers motherboard, so therefor u just WOULDEN`T be responding like u do , OK?
Do u think all pro`s like Astral ect. do like U??....no i think not!! I know what real good equipment can do!! U don`t
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And one more thing. Most of today's Astral tunes are made with software. I'm sure your elite ears can spot a VB-1 bassline.
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Astralasia
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Posted : Apr 16, 2005 20:31
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Hi traveller, well i actually work in the same town as sonkite, and they dont use much software of what i know of, i know that they got a voyager, (among other stuff)
But ye! probibly some soft to!!  |
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volvox box
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Posted : Apr 16, 2005 20:31
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whats the difference between hardware and software? The logical circuilts of the processors of the hardware are actually simulated on a computer, so actually the software is analog simulation of the hardware. with a basic difference that in the hardware you got greater latency, loss of information on its way threw the cables, which in the case of software is almost unexisting.
So what do you say? Hardware or software make better sound?
Saying from the point of university student studying computer engeneering . . .
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Astralasia
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Posted : Apr 16, 2005 20:32
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What u hear in astrals latest cd (Amen) not ten!
is probibly a Virus, not software! (i assume, as i have 3 viruses and a ti comming) |
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Astralasia
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Posted : Apr 16, 2005 20:36
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Hi volvobox! yes that imulation you talk about is true, but! its only a EMULATION of real dsp which is optimized for sound, such as MOTROLA DSP`s
So that emulation is a virtual dsp, which means
not real virtual analog! eaven!! its the same diffrence as from real analog to dsp and then comes software!!
and if u didn`t know, so the latency of midi is about 6 milliseconds no matter if hard or software! and by the way, i think i have 15kg of cables in my studio and no latency at all  |
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phobium
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Posted : Apr 16, 2005 20:38
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As long as it sounds good, what does it matter if it's hardware or software? This is just a matter of opinions ... Some people work better with software, others work better with hardware.
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volvox box
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Posted : Apr 16, 2005 20:42
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yeah indeed its simulation, this computer sound is smoother, while the hardware sound has its own raw taste, which allows you to reckon software made with hardware made, and indeed hardware made has that feeling of real live played music.
but yet software allows you greater and more accurate precision on sound creation, and combining sounds in structure.
But i think that is not the point hardware vs software its disscussed too many times.
I know what you mean, artists workin for like 6 months releasing music all over the place which is bizzare indeed.
Plus it all sounds the same. |
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Astralasia
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Posted : Apr 16, 2005 20:51
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Hi again! well the computer is emulating the Synths processor , but lets don`t forget that the processor is not the only thing that makes a DSP synt, the processor is working whit other
Involved Components whitch creates the sound!
Which also is optimized for The sound structure! YESSSS!! |
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Pavel
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Posted : Apr 16, 2005 21:07
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Dude, obviously you don't know much electronics. There is no Hardware and Software. There is Analog and Digital.
Virus, Nord Lead etc... they are all software inside. Yes, they have a dedicated CPU and dedicated Memory and dedicated electric plug. But it is Software. And if you don't believe me go to Clavia website and hit the downloads button. What do you see there? Patches and OS's for download. So, if it looks like an apple, tastes like an apple and called apple, than it is an apple.
I could agree that there is a difference between TB-303 and Rebirth. But there is no difference between VA Modular Synth and Reaktor running on strong PC + good sound card. If you can't pull good sound from Reaktor don't blame computers. Blame yourself.
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headyatail2000
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Posted : Apr 17, 2005 02:07
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shudn't u guys be battling this out in
equipment and music creation..?
<~< "the best things in life aren't things" - art buchwald >~> |
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Astralasia
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Posted : Apr 17, 2005 15:17
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Hi pavel, yes thats how they build. But thats not the point here: what im trying to say is that A software synth is an Emulation of a virtual analog synth (which, YES is a optimized computer for sound creation and the synth in it`s self is the OS) but softwaresynths is an emulation of that! which means: Not real, it`s
pretending to be a "Nord lead or what so" there for it doesn`t sound the same! "does a real minimoog sound like any of it`s clones? Nop!
And the same diffrence is between hard And software which puts the softsynt third on the
Foodchain!! Bon apetit! See Ya! |
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volvox box
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Posted : Apr 17, 2005 16:21
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ok dude i have a korg ms20
why the fuck do they sell midi controller for the korg ms20 vst plugin, instead of the hardware synth which is not produced anymore?
korg which is a huge trademark for audio hardware is so stupid that he removed the hardware from its series of production and replaced it with software ?
while korg ms20 i consider for daddy of the analogs |
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AjmaGard
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Posted : Apr 17, 2005 17:21
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On 2005-04-16 18:03, Astralasia wrote:
And by the way, comparing to u, ye im shure im a elite, afterall i do work in the largest music store in sweden and i do take care of the high-tec side
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I take it from this post that buisness isn't going too well then?
But still: Could you please link to some of your tracks so we can really hear how much better you are than these 'kids' you refer to?
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PoM
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Posted : Apr 17, 2005 19:00
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lot of french artists well known in the world use softwares and some combined with hardware.some years ago they were using a lot more hardware and listen?they improve their sound album to album and using less hardware evrytime. |
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EYB
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Posted: Apr 17, 2005
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Astralasia i laugh about you, hahahahehe
about you and ur never ending dumbness you talking in this thread. LOL LOL LOL
I only use software and a digital dsp card and u say
my music is crap?
U are cr*p and your music is cr*p.
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