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tips & secrets to evolve melodies
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Conny
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Posted : May 7, 2008 21:29
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I´ve noticed that adding a second melodi to the first one makes the first appear more advanced.Is this what counterpoint is ?
i´ve noticed that if the second melodi ( the track underneath the first ) reminds of the first one, but is simpler it makes the whole sound more advanced.
Anyone who can teach us more about this ?
Can you use counterpoints on basses aswell or is just for melodies ? |
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Sixofour
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Posted : May 7, 2008 21:50
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That's exactly what i did in the link i posted. The bass is a simpler melody on the same chordal progression..and its meant to accent the main melody....*cough* no one does this anymore really...
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Conny
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Posted : May 7, 2008 22:49
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Hi !
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Psytracked
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Posted : May 12, 2008 08:01
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I'm with Mesq on this one. Regardless off the origins of goa, Counterpoint was born out of western classical. His original wikipedia quote was a very good description of what counterpoint entails.
For me Steve Reich's Electric Counterpoint is a good example of it's use.
The problem I have found with music theory is that its language is dated and miss used my more modern music which justs add more confusion. Theory does has a place but I have found its actual output to be very uneconomical.
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Sixofour
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Posted : May 12, 2008 21:50
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That's because music theroy isn't universal....its not the same for everyone.
For some, there is no difference for counterpoint and harmony, they mean the same thing, and the singular meaning includes both definitions, which usually cannot be removed from eachother.
I still think Harmony is achived when two melodies play at the same time and compliment eachother.
Which is called melodic harmony. Harmony as stated by the wikipedia document is what i would call Chordal Harmony.
Then again, others would say i'm completely wrong..and i say screw them. |
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Psytracked
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Posted : May 13, 2008 03:39
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Well I've been involved in this debate before and I was originally in your camp on this one. I'm a music tech student at London college of music. The hardcore music students (actual classically trained musicians) soon put me in my place. When students and teachers are telling you you've miss understood something, you have got to take it on the chin and accept you were wrong. I'm shit at admitting I'm wrong on these matters. The problem for me was that I had to rethink many of the things that I had assumed I was right about. A daunting prospect at the best of times.
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Sixofour
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Posted : May 13, 2008 04:09
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I dropped out of school because the teachers were wrong, and i still know they were wrong today.
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Psytracked
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Posted : May 13, 2008 04:27
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I dropped out when I was 15.
16 years later I'm doing an MA. I once though they were all wrong and that I would show them.....lol Now I have to admit that I got it wrong on a few things, well probably more than a few. The fact it took me so long to go back to education just shows what a stubborn prick I can be sometimes. fortunately for me, common sense prevailed.
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