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Tips for acoustic treatment.

Djones
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Posted : May 11, 2013 16:13:10
Time has come to finally add some foam panels, bass traps and absorbers to my room to balance things out a bit.
I'm not really looking to build everything from scratch, but if certain things aren't too much trouble I might consider doing it myself.
Below is how my room is currently setup, with my desk placed under a high sleeper and all other furniture etc.

http://postimg.org/gallery/4dmuv24q/

Sure it doesn't have to be 100 % acoustically treated as that will cost me a ton.
But talking basic stuff, what would you recommend and where should all panels and whatever be placed in order to make my room a little more producer friendly?
Agorit


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Posted : May 11, 2013 16:43
IMO,
Don't use foam. There are many types of absorbing more effective than foam. Either with the same physical principle or not.
Keep symmetry in your room will help in clarity and in their perception of the soundstage.
I recommend you download some measurement software.
With this you will better identify how your room responds. You can try fuzzmeasure or room eq wizard.
Colin OOOD
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Posted : May 11, 2013 18:18
Your room won't need much treatment to sound good - in fact I reckon it probably sounds pretty good already.

What I would recommend is some or all of the following (can't give a proper recommendation without hearing the room itself, you'll have to use your judgement):
- Broadband absorbtion on bottom of the bed above your desk
- Broadband absorbtion on both walls of the corners of your work area and behind your computer monitor - use the mirror technique to make sure you're getting it in the right place to soak up the first reflections from the walls to your ears.
- (optional) corner bass traps behind your speakers up to at least bed height, with even more optional corner traps in the rear corners of the room
- Broadband absorbtion on the rear wall.

I would strongly suggest making sure your desk is symmetrically-placed between the side walls.

Acoustic foam is ok for high-mids and highs, but won't touch anything below at least 250Hz. Building broadband absorbers yourself is easy and cheap, and IMO is best done using Rockwool (or whatever the local brand of mineral wool is called) inside a simple wooden frame, covered in the cheapest stretchy t-shirt material you can find. You can easily make a good absorber this way that takes up the same amount of space in the room as some decent pyramid foam.

What is very important is that you build or buy what is right for your space, and to that end Agorit's advice of measuring the acoustic properties of your room is good to follow.

Here is my Studio Acoustics weblink list, most useful to me when I was building the treatment in my room.
http://www.gearslutz.com/board/bass-traps-acoustic-panels-foam-etc/461468-what-type-rockwool-use-bass-traps-2.html
http://forum.recordingreview.com/content/why-your-bass-traps-don-t-work-156/
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/sep04/articles/realtraps.htm
http://www.realtraps.com/howto.htm
http://www.radford.edu/~shelm/acoustics/bass-traps.html
http://www.studiotips.com/
http://forum.studiotips.com/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bass_trap
http://www.building-supplies-online.co.uk/rockwool-rwa45-acoustic-insulation-slab-3842-p.asp
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=youtube+bass+trap+diy&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-beta&channel=fflb
http://forum.studiotips.com/viewtopic.php?t=535
http://forum.studiotips.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=536
http://www.insulationexpress.co.uk/Acoustic%2DInsulation/Earthwool%2DFlexible%2DSlab.htm
http://sourceforge.net/projects/acoustmeas/?source=dlp
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Djones
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Posted : May 11, 2013 18:47
Thanks for your help guys!
Going by broadband absorption, I should build about 7 of those units to cover everything around my desk and rear wall?
And after that's been done, the next step is to set them up correctly?
But first I should decide how much absorption I really need, and that's where the microphone measurement software is needed right?
Colin OOOD
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Posted : May 11, 2013 20:05
Further to my last post I would say to consider the following:

Superchunk bass traps behind the speakers, going all the way to the ceiling if possible (and if not all the way up, traps in the ceiling corners) - plus small absorbers at ear-height in the mirror positions on the side walls and a larger one centre back behind the monitors. If your bass is particularly out of control, add superchunks in the rear corners too. Also some absorbtion and diffusion on the rear wall, and diffusion on the side walls halfway between the rear wall and the mix position.           Mastering - http://mastering.OOOD.net :: www.is.gd/mastering
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Agorit


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Posted : May 11, 2013 20:19
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On 2013-05-11 18:47, Djones wrote:
Thanks for your help guys!
Going by broadband absorption, I should build about 7 of those units to cover everything around my desk and rear wall?
And after that's been done, the next step is to set them up correctly?
But first I should decide how much absorption I really need, and that's where the microphone measurement software is needed right?



colin's advice is nice.
before making / buying the treatment, use measurement and try to find the best position in your room. that position you have better bass response, less power in the early reflections, and better decay time.
After that, knowing their problems, begin adding the traps and see what will be the result.
As Colin said, foam absorbs only freq medium / high. But these frequencies are easy absorbed. The problem is the low freq.
If using broadband, it needs to be thick to be effective in low freq. Then at points where there is accumulation of low freq, use these larger absorbers. For points of first reflection (mirror trick) you can use thinner absorbers.
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