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Tip of the day!

gutter
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Posted : Oct 1, 2008 13:26
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i m sure every plugs use the same or a better algo when you bounce them



how can that be ,, since IT IS STAND BY and the sequencer reproduce the algo?? it doesnt make sense .. and if you consider Nuendo as crap , then crap it is.
Nabla jpr
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Posted : Oct 1, 2008 13:27
PoM

could you tell me how I can do it with total mix?
what do you mean ctrl+click?

cheers

nab
gutter
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Posted : Oct 1, 2008 13:43
ctrl+click is the same as opening the routing channel below the faders of total mix and its great for routing the external hardware you're using, but what i'm talking about cannot be done like this cause you'll have phase correlation and the sound will be shit (it happened to me the first time i routed it), so you need a cable
& the SPDIF have nothing to do with the Analog 1+2 where your sound comes from , if you route it through there you'll probably have phase issues .it must be independent
Nabla jpr
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Posted : Oct 1, 2008 13:57
thanks gutter for the explanation..I just bought the rme and still learning how to use it completely
i'm gonna try it soon..it's exactly what I was looking for...especially for the way you record without using the export fun..much faster i would say


nab
PoM
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Posted : Oct 1, 2008 14:57
check the manual , it s called loopback or something like that, it allow you to record what you hear.(virtually connect a output to a input )
gutter
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Posted : Oct 1, 2008 15:43
im reading it , youre probably right about this ,, have to go home though to try it for sure ,, ill post tomorrow if i was successful
PoM
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Posted : Oct 1, 2008 17:18
you can try to export a audio track then play the export and the original at the same time on nuendo but reverse the phase of one of them,they should null perfectly means that 2 files sound exaclty the same.
PsychoCinese


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Posted : Oct 1, 2008 22:57
Well, most of the time im here to ask, but this question about export was pretty explained in a course of music production that i made 2 years ago...
What my teacher spoke is: Abbleton live (till v.7) have this live/record audio problem, also he spoke about this test reversing phase on 2 samples. I have made myself some tests on Cubase/Nuendo (SX3) and this dont occours.
But some days ago i have a trouble exporting bassline, after a lot of time and weed to keep calm i discover that the problem is a fx that was applied on the export and was applied again on listen, causa the bass chanel was routed to a mono group...
So i never had a real trouble in live/recorded audio in Nuendo... But i will try to use my Juli@ directwire software to make some tests recording in the spdif           www.myspace.com/luunnaaproject
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yggster


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Posted : Oct 3, 2008 16:48
Tip of the day:

THERE ARE NO RULES!

Be yourself and explore your own sound. Don't try to imitate others and their sound, it won't lead to anything creative.

Tip for tomorow:

A "real" synt that has soul, heart and guts will need a lot less processing then a sonicly dead vst synt. Then you buy another...and another...and another...

If only using vst instruments, don't expect any commercial viable music. Only the very best may use vst's with good result.

There is very little going on today in the psy world, that would be considered well made by serious technichans and engineers.

Lack of quality gear, too much flat dead vst's and no expremental visions is my view of the matter.

Tomos
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Posted : Oct 4, 2008 05:31
Don't spend ages importing different percussive sounds to audition them in your track (depending on your method of playback, this could take a long time)

Just import your entire kicks/snares/hats etc. folder into a sampler that will map each one to a different note. Draw your hits in midi, press ctrl+a to select them all, start at the bottom and just press 'UP' on the arrow keys to move the sound through all your available choices while the track is playing.



If anyone else has any good workflow tips, I'd be very interested to hear them - I'm all about speed and not breaking my flow.
Saii
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Posted : Oct 4, 2008 10:43
good idea but what about if u want to try a differnet combination of hits this wont be possible if they are all selected and moving up and down           saii.rave.ca
Seppa


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Posted : Oct 4, 2008 16:25
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If only using vst instruments, don't expect any commercial viable music. Only the very best may use vst's with good result.



not true... it s not about hardware or software there are excellent vsts out there and excellent hadware... like there are hadware and vsts that might not be the right choice for the sound one likes....

personnaly I use a combination of both... but you can just go vst.. now i noticed that the best ones in my opinion are rarely the subject of discussion in this forum.... very strange!
Medea
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Posted : Oct 5, 2008 22:40
Tip of the day:

Don't stick to trance production forums, there are tons of interesting threads over the other styles forums, that can be useful for everyone producing electronic music. For example, if you want to learn more about percussion building and processing - drum'n'bass forums are the way to go           http://soundcloud.com/aedem
yggster


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Posted : Oct 6, 2008 15:47
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On 2008-10-04 16:25, Seppa wrote:
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If only using vst instruments, don't expect any commercial viable music. Only the very best may use vst's with good result.



not true... it s not about hardware or software there are excellent vsts out there and excellent hadware... like there are hadware and vsts that might not be the right choice for the sound one likes....

personnaly I use a combination of both... but you can just go vst.. now i noticed that the best ones in my opinion are rarely the subject of discussion in this forum.... very strange!



A matter of opinion I suppose, a mix of soft and hardware works great though. But imo then by using software for compressors, EQ, limiting and such only (UAD), perhaps trow a db glitsh or similar in there but rather no softsynts.

When you compare vst synt clones to the originals, for example oddity with any model odyssey you'll be blown away by the difference.

I'll save my money to buy real machines that not only sound fat, raw, gritty or just truly beautiful, always with character, but it also keep it's value over time or even raises it.

Then there is the playability and all the lovely knobs...


Medea that's a great tip! Always look and think outside the box.

Colin OOOD
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Posted : Oct 6, 2008 17:16
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On 2008-10-06 15:47, yggster wrote:
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I'll save my money to buy real machines that not only sound fat, raw, gritty or just truly beautiful, always with character, but it also keep it's value over time or even raises it.


That's fair enough if you see your studio as an investment rather than something to get creative with

Composition aside, the only thing stopping people making 100% virtual/VST music sound 'commercially viable' or 'well made' is lack of patience and experience. Don't give up just because it sounds shit; figure out WHY it sounds shit and then figure out what you can do about it!           Mastering - http://mastering.OOOD.net :: www.is.gd/mastering
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